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  • #184917

    NoleSoup4U
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    It isn’t even about the pot charge, I think that s*** should be legal. My problem is his track record. I say we boot him, go with what we’ve got, and rs Howell if possible. What a disaster that qb class was.

    #184986

    mmccscribe
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    Well, I’m not sure Francois was much of a threat to claw back up to the top of the depth chart, anyway. I think Blackman’s ceiling as a pure passer is a lot higher, and you have to figure Frenchy would be rusty as all get-on once he’s able to play, anyway.

    I don’t see Taggart giving the kid his walking papers, although there is one wild card in all this. The Orlando Sentinel story says the TPD Special Investigations unit had confiscated stuff from the vicinity of Francois’ apartment on four separate occasions prior to this search warrant. Add that to the blow-up with his girlfriend a couple of months ago and there might be a lot more worms in this can.

    One question is whether Taggart thinks he has to set an example, and the second is whether there is more dirt that is going to come up. Finally, is Taggart okay with a depth chart consisting of Blackman, Hockman and Rizzo? If Willie answers yes to two of those three…

    Edit: Rizzo is not listed on the roster at seminoles.com. Maybe Frenchy ain’t so disposable after all, unless Cam Akers starts throwing the ball in practice.

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    #185088

    NoleSoup4U
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    Here’s an article talking about Rizzo no longer being on the roster. He must be looking to transfer. We’ll probably hear something about it during the summer.

    http://www.sportingnews.com/ncaa-football/news/florida-state-football-2018-roster-qb-depth-chart-quarterbacks-deondre-francois-james-blackman/1pnxcnbltx48y1p9aka1jbv65t

    #185093

    mmccscribe
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    The article really doesn’t tell us anything about Rizzo, but one imagines you’re right about transferring. Most likely explanation unless he has his degree and is just moving on with something else altogether. Bad news for the depth chart, though. I just don’t see Francois as steady enough to stay out of the doo-doo, so we effectively have a two-player depth chart at QB. Bad news.

    #185121

    finance85
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    Rizzo has enough talent to play at mid majors. He apparently decided he wanted to explore that option because he wasn’t going to see the field at FSU.

    Francois is arrogant, and probably won’t see the handwriting on the wall until the fall, when it will be too late for him to transfer. He’ll be lucky to be 2nd string if Hockman keeps improving. With his baggage, it’s doubtful a Top 25 program would take him anyway.

    #185123

    finance85
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    Francois’s girlfriend told the TPD Francois was smoking weed. TPD loves to target FSU athletes, so this was bound to happen.

    #185210

    mmccscribe
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    Well, Francois had his chance. And who knows, maybe he’ll pull his head out of his a**.

    As for Rizzo, I hope he gets some playing time. Wouldn’t it be cool if he got a good season or two at someplace like Memphis or Cincinnati and we ended up seeing him in the NFL? We’d be shouting at the t.v. screen, “Jake, you da man!”

    #185216

    finance85
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    Scribe, totally agree with your last post. I would add that Jake loves FSU. I don’t know his circumstances or reasons for leaving, but he’s probably graduated, or if not, he’ll have either one or two seasons left depending on where he goes.

    #185219

    finance85
    Moderator

    Back to Francois – I don’t fault him for the way he handled the situation with his girlfriend. I do fault him for how he handled last season, and for getting busted for weed while knowing his girlfriend ratted him out.

    I think weed should be legal, and also not banned by the NCAA. Until that happens, kids need to stop risking their future, hoping they won’t get caught. It’s not just the school, NCAA, and NFL. It also involves a lot of jobs, and the ability to get a security clearance.

    #185226

    mmccscribe
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    Have to admit I’m a bit on the fence regarding weed, but to me, Francois just doesn’t seem to exercise a whole lot of common sense. That kind of thing really ties a coach’s hands. It wasn’t like Jimbo wanted to kick Greg Reid off the team, but #5 kept screwing up.

    That said, I’m not sure Taggart can afford to give Francois the boot. What a headache for Willie, but one supposes this is one of the reasons you make lots of money to do that kind of thing. At some point, they probably all come to see acetaminophen as a food group.

    #185269

    finance85
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    So the headline story for today on this site is that TPD sat on Francois for 2 months before busting him. No surprise there. Heck, I posted that on this thread yesterday. It’s typical TPD.

    #185308

    NoleSoup4U
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    And they still only found 17 grams.

    As for weed, hell, I think even meth should be legal. However, that’s one man’s opinion.

    #185311

    mmccscribe
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    You think meth should be legal? I’m sure most rehab counselors and the relations of those who have lost their lives to that stuff would disagree, so…

    Look, regardless of what anyone thinks of the Tallahassee PD, I’d wager that none of their critics know what proportion of their arrests are of FSU athletes. If you have numbers that demonstrate that Seminole athletes are disproportionately targeted for investigation, swell. Say so. It just seems to me there are not that many stories of FSU athletes being arrested in the first place, but I don’t live there.

    Are FSU students in general more likely than townies to be arrested by the TPD? Does anyone who makes these allegations have any such info handy? It’d be nice to see it if so. But I find it tough to choke down anecdotal allegations of targeting when those who make those allegations never seem to have any actual data to confirm their suspicions.

    #185317

    NoleSoup4U
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    I think most of society would disagree with me, but it’s just my opinion.

    #185319

    finance85
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    Scribe, I like most of your posts, but your last one baffles me. You seem overly defensive. You ask for statistics knowing full well there are none that cover this. In fact, this is one area where statistics don’t matter anyway. Each case has to be seen on it’s own merit.

    I’ll post a couple of links showing bias and you can decide. I don’t live in Tallahassee, but I go there fairly frequently. I no longer look at the Tally newspaper. These are high profile cases that made it past the local news.

    http://www.wctv.tv/home/headlines/428852.html

    http://www.wtxl.com/news/fsu-track-stars-arrested-after-alleged-shooting-incident/article_3049c150-923f-11e2-aed5-0019bb30f31a.html

    In the Travis Johnson case, a juror was asked why it only took 30 minutes. She laughed and said it would have taken 15 minutes but they had to elect a foreman and decide where to go for lunch.

    In the case of the track athletes, all the charges were dropped. Both were from Africa, they didn’t understand why the police were even talking to them, and had never touched a gun. They heard the commotion and came outside to see what was happening.

    Then there’s Willie Meggs, and his relationship with TPD and FSU athletes.

    http://noledout.com/other/state-attorney-meggs-inconsistent-with-fsu-athletes-others.html

    https://247sports.com/college/florida-state/Board/36/Contents/Travis-Johnson-Jameis-Winston-Willie-Meggs-Updated-24225487

    I couldn’t find it online, but there are quotes from TPD officers that they just arrest the FSU athletes and let Willie Meggs take it from there.

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