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Boom. Bibi just shoved Obozo's nuke deal up Iran's bung hole

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  • #186251

    F4Gary
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    #186257

    wordjazz
    Blocked

    Oooooh. Iran has hidden “files’ and “cd’s” whoich show Iran was developing nuclear weapons.

    “Netanyahu displayed what he said was “an exact copy” fo the original materials, which are now in “very safe place” and include incriminating documents, charts, presentations, blueprints, and photos.

    Speaking a nationally televised address, Israel’s prime minister said the material is filled with incriminating evidence showing the Iranian program, called “Project Amad,” was to develop a weapon.”

    No s..t Sherlock, no one believed that crap and nothing in the deal relied on that lie.

     

    If we get a similar deal with North Korea – destruction of facilities and constant on site inspections by the IAEA – it will be a real achievement that everyone – including Trump – will be celebrating.

    Obama’s been there and done that.

     

    #186258

    finance85
    Moderator

    LOL. Some people will believe anything. Rationalize away, wordjazz. I’m sure Bibi just faked those documents, and Iran would never break a deal.

    #186260

    wordjazz
    Blocked

    I understand what he has and you don’t. He has documents showing Iran HAD a nuclear weaopns program – past tense. Did anyone really think they didn’t? Was that a part of the agreement? Learn to read.

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    #186263

    Guckster
    Participant

    Little late I see,…. the loons are falling out of their bubbles it seems,…

    #186281

    NoleSoup4U
    Participant

    Another bad year, eh wordjazz?

    #186284

    poss9399
    Blocked

    Ok. What do you guys want? Trump tears up the Nuclear Iran deal. What next? America and Israel would be alone in this. The EU wouldn’t be with us. We could try and persuade the EU to snap back their sanctions, but, oh yeah, Tillerson hollowed out the highest levels of the State department so we have very few seasoned diplomats to work on that. Oh, we also had the German ambassador appointed a whopping 4 days ago, so he probably doesn’t have the experience of clout to persuade Merkel. And of course Trumps dragging of the UN, NATO, and the EU in general won’t help him. So we would go to the negotiating table with shockingly little leverage. What if we go alone on Sanctions, which, Soup, once again, you’ve crucified past presidents sanctioning of Iraq as murdering brown people. How would sanctions against Iran be different? The EU doesn’t seem to have the stomach for another round of sanctions, so what if Iran tells us to kick rocks and voids the deal? They could kick out the inspectors and restart their nuclear deal. Maybe that would convince the EU to snap back sanctions, but, again, murdering brown people right? Even then, we’d be right back at the beginning, and Iran would have more ammo to rile up their uber religious factions.

    So, you’ve got the Iran deal ripped up. Now what. You want it, explain how we’d get a “better deal” with no leverage, no allies, few experienced diplomats, and the idea of negotiating in good faith in tatters. What then? More missiles? Or let them get the Nuke? Let Israel deal with them? Israel has been so good at dealing with Gaza, they’d be fine handling this right? Seriously, what the fuck do you think our options are? For fucks sake, James “Mad Dog” Mattie just testified recently about how surprised he was at how ironclad the inspectors ability to gain access to the sites they want to is. His exact words were the deal was made with the assumption Iran would try and cheat.

    #186286

    NoleSoup4U
    Participant

    Not our problem. Let Europe do something useful for once, instead of spending our money.

    #186287

    poss9399
    Blocked

    So, basically, a shrug. Gotcha. Let’s burn down a painstakingly negotiated, complicated international agreement because, nothing? That’s what I thought. Let the adults handle stuff you’re too simple to understand.

    #186288

    Guckster
    Participant

    lol Iran is not honoring the deal in place,…so I don’t see what the problem is,…if you believe they are,…. they are laughing at you….

    #186289

    NoleSoup4U
    Participant

    Painstakingly negotiated blah blah blah…

    F*** Iran, f*** Israel, and f*** Europe. Let them deal with this problem. Besides, I rather doubt that deal was as grand as you’re trying to make it out to be. It could be the same plan, but Trump pushed it through, and you would hate it.

    #186290

    poss9399
    Blocked

    We have absolutely no evidence Iran is violating the Nuclear deal. The documents Bibi has are from 2003. Iran has denied their authenticity.

    Soup, so you’re ok with Iran getting a nuke? Ok, state that position. The secretary for the department of defense seems to think it was pretty well negotiated. I’ll take his word for it over your ignorant, unfounded, detached from reality, “intuition.”

    #186291

    NoleSoup4U
    Participant

    Yeah, I’m fine with it. Look, if these mouth breathers can’t solve their own problems in their own regions, then they deserve to burn in the fiery nuclear holocaust that results from their retarded decisions.

    #186292

    poss9399
    Blocked

    Alright, how hard is it to state that position instead of adding all sorts of bullshit innuendo to your posts. Complete withdrawal. Just fucking say it man.

    #186293

    NoleSoup4U
    Participant

    Because nobody asked me. Am I supposed to read your mind or something? If there’s anything you should know about me by now, it’s that I’m not shy to tell you what I think.

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