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Thread: Man Was Handed a Speeding Ticket, He Noticed Something Fishy

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    Man Was Handed a Speeding Ticket, He Noticed Something Fishy

    When a Man Was Handed a Speeding Ticket, He Noticed Something Fishy — Now an Alleged Scheme Has Been Uncovered

    A Houston police officer handed another man a speeding ticket and probably didn’t realize that the offender he was citing was also a cop. What this ticket-receiving officer noticed on his paper slip though has led to a department-wide investigation.


    KHOU-TV believes it uncovered a ticket scheme in which Houston officers include the name of another witness officer who was not actually present. This later results in overtime pay when the officer has to appear in court. (Photo credit: Shutterstock)

    “I immediately [knew] that something’s hinky with the ticket,” the man KHOU-TV only identified as Jerry said. “There was no other officer, he was the only officer there.”

    The ticket, however, listed another officer as an additional witness.

    KHOU launched an investigation into Jerry’s claims and uncovered an alleged “ticket-rigging scheme,” where cops listed on tickets who were not actually present at the time of the offense were cashing in on overtime when they appeared in court later.

    The Houston Police Department is conducting its own internal investigation into the issue, putting three officers — Gregory Rosa, Robert Manzanales and John Garcia — on desk jobs during this time.

    KHOU reported that a fourth officer identified as Rudolph Farias, who was also being investigated, committed suicide earlier this week in a police parking garage. The 51-year-old was on the force for 21 years and, according to KHOU, made $158,000 in overtime within the past three years. How much of that could be due to falsely reported tickets is unknown at this time.

    Here’s more from KHOU about what it uncovered:

    The I-Team found the alleged ticket-rigging scheme took place mostly on highways. In one case in May, Officer Manzalnaes put Officer Farias down as a witness at 11:24 p.m. at I-10 and Westcott Street.

    But at the same exact time, records show Farias was writing a ticket nine miles away at I-10 and Wilcrest.

    In other example in April, three officers at once allegedly were in on it along the Katy Freeway. At 11:30 p.m. at the 610 Loop, Officer Manzanales listed Garcia as a witness on his ticket. But at 11:31 p.m, Garica also is a witness at Beltway 8, on a ticket Officer Rosa wrote. But records show at 11:31 p.m., Rosa is a witness over at Highway 6, on a ticket written by Officer Garcia.

    Watch KHOU’s report about the investigation:
    http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2014...een-uncovered/

    Ray Hunt, president of the police officer’s union, told KHOU that these officers are considered “innocent until proven guilty.”

    Police Chief Charles McClelland offered a similar perspective to KPRC-TV.

    “I can’t assume there’s an irregularity. I can’t assume the officers falsified a government document. I can’t assume anything until I have proof or evidence,” he told the news station.

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    Re: Man Was Handed a Speeding Ticket, He Noticed Something F

    Yeah, this all started when that police officer shot himself in the parking garage. Nothing will really happen, however. The cops down here are really shady.

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    Re: Man Was Handed a Speeding Ticket, He Noticed Something F

    Didn't the police payroll department get suspicious when people are bringing down 150 grand in overtime?

    Oh, that's right. They're spending other people's money. Who cares?

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    I couple of years ago the Chronicle ran a story regarding the top ten paid police officers -- they were all over 150K with overtime and side jobs. Side jobs serving as security at bars and game rooms. And then you cna retired with 85% before age 50 and the 85% is based on their last three years of work. So, the trick that they all do is work all the time those last three years--basically tell the wife and kids that they won't see police office daddy because he's going to be pulling every overtime shift he can, and collect 85% of 150,000 (with full medical) until you die....not a bad gig.

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    Re: Man Was Handed a Speeding Ticket, He Noticed Something F

    Public sector unions allow this kind of crap to happen. In the real world, this guy would be on the street looking for a new job.

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    Re: Man Was Handed a Speeding Ticket, He Noticed Something F

    While the monetary fraud is appalling, am I to believe these guys were going in and testifying that they witnessed things they didn't?

    Hard to believe somebody didn't catch it earlier if so.

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    Yes. They (the cops) say that they write so many tickets that they need the ticket to refresh their memory. ADA shows it to him/her, and bing "oh ya, captured so and so with radar gun going 75 and mile marker 17."

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    Re: Man Was Handed a Speeding Ticket, He Noticed Something F

    Quote Originally Posted by Fijimn
    I couple of years ago the Chronicle ran a story regarding the top ten paid police officers -- they were all over 150K with overtime and side jobs. Side jobs serving as security at bars and game rooms. And then you cna retired with 85% before age 50 and the 85% is based on their last three years of work. So, the trick that they all do is work all the time those last three years--basically tell the wife and kids that they won't see police office daddy because he's going to be pulling every overtime shift he can, and collect 85% of 150,000 (with full medical) until you die....not a bad gig.
    Same game goes one here..sheriffs, firemen etc....and they get a substantial bonus if they go early, I think its called going into "the drop". I know a guy who may be 50 getting $90k/yr which is the equivalent of having like $3 mill in a private 401k . I'm all for paying cops and fireman, but sweet mother of god.

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    Re: Man Was Handed a Speeding Ticket, He Noticed Something F

    Quote Originally Posted by Panhandler
    While the monetary fraud is appalling, am I to believe these guys were going in and testifying that they witnessed things they didn't?

    Hard to believe somebody didn't catch it earlier if so.
    Cops do that all the time. Why would you be surprised.

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    Re: Man Was Handed a Speeding Ticket, He Noticed Something F

    One, I'm surprised the cop who turned them in did not try to get out of the ticket by telling the guy who he was.

    Two, $158k goes a long way in Houston.

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