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  1. #1

    Obama the blamer talks again

    http://news.msn.com/world/obama-us-misj ... nts-threat

    He's blaming military leaders and intel on the current situation in Iraq. I beg to differ. Had he not been so hell bent on withdrawing, we'd not be in this situation. Instead of sending Joe Biden to renegotiate the SOFA, he could have been presidential and done it himself to show Maliki we were serious. Had he been serious he would have understood the risks involved in leaving Iraq before the Army and more importantly, the Iraqi SOF was ready to go 100%. The SOF training was the most important and our withdrawing from Iraq cut said SOF forces off from valuable intel and mobility assets needed to do the job against threats to Iraq.

    No, he surrounds himself with YES MEN and only hears what he wants. In many ways he is as arrogant as Adolph Hitler when it comes to military decision making. Hitler purged many of his generals as Obama has done as well. The only ones remaining are politicians like himself who are looking out for #1 and not the nation as a whole.

    If there is anyone to blame, it is himself.

  2. #2

    Re: Obama the blamer talks again

    President Barry O'blame-a....

    fancying himself an LBJ who can pick bombing sites?

  3. #3

    Re: Obama the blamer talks again

    Quote Originally Posted by John Galt Nole
    President Barry O'blame-a....

    fancying himself an LBJ who can pick bombing sites?
    Hey JGN, good to see you found your way over here, you right-wing nut, you... ;)
    You shut your mouth when you're talking to me!

  4. #4

    Re: Obama the blamer talks again

    Quote Originally Posted by John Galt Nole
    President Barry O'blame-a....

    fancying himself an LBJ who can pick bombing sites?
    Quote Originally Posted by Tribe92
    Quote Originally Posted by John Galt Nole
    President Barry O'blame-a....

    fancying himself an LBJ who can pick bombing sites?
    Hey JGN, good to see you found your way over here, you right-wing nut, you... ;)
    Tried to stay away long as I could...

    but I'm a giver.... and a giver has to give.

    :D

  5. #5

    Re: Obama the blamer talks again

    When something good happens, Barry uses "I" and "me". When it's failure, he uses "we" language.
    Just a puppy kicking, children starving, grandma shoving, kitten throwing, evil, vile, nasty, disgusting, racist, sexist, bigot.....or so I've been told. :)

  6. #6

    Re: Obama the blamer talks again

    It's the intelligence community! LOL, it's like NSA and CIA aren't part of his administration!

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    Re: Obama the blamer talks again

    Quote Originally Posted by Pacedog
    http://news.msn.com/world/obama-us-misjudged-iraqi-army-militants-threat

    He's blaming military leaders and intel on the current situation in Iraq. I beg to differ. Had he not been so hell bent on withdrawing, we'd not be in this situation. Instead of sending Joe Biden to renegotiate the SOFA, he could have been presidential and done it himself to show Maliki we were serious. Had he been serious he would have understood the risks involved in leaving Iraq before the Army and more importantly, the Iraqi SOF was ready to go 100%. The SOF training was the most important and our withdrawing from Iraq cut said SOF forces off from valuable intel and mobility assets needed to do the job against threats to Iraq.

    No, he surrounds himself with YES MEN and only hears what he wants. In many ways he is as arrogant as Adolph Hitler when it comes to military decision making. Hitler purged many of his generals as Obama has done as well. The only ones remaining are politicians like himself who are looking out for #1 and not the nation as a whole.

    If there is anyone to blame, it is himself.
    If 9 years of training was not enough, how much does it take. F..k these guys if they can't get it together. The biggest problem was and is the distrust of Sunni's for the Iraqi government and army, and Obama just successfully maneuvered Maliki out the back door and has in place a president who at least says the right things. If their boots don't get on the ground, we've done what we reasonably can by supporting them in ways only we can, without fighting their GD battles for them.

  8. #8

    Re: Obama the blamer talks again

    Yeah, because saying the right things worked so well for the US these past six years.
    Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities.


    Voltaire (1694 - 1778)

  9. #9

    Re: Obama the blamer talks again

    Quote Originally Posted by Pacedog
    http://news.msn.com/world/obama-us-misjudged-iraqi-army-militants-threat

    He's blaming military leaders and intel on the current situation in Iraq. I beg to differ. Had he not been so hell bent on withdrawing, we'd not be in this situation. Instead of sending Joe Biden to renegotiate the SOFA, he could have been presidential and done it himself to show Maliki we were serious. Had he been serious he would have understood the risks involved in leaving Iraq before the Army and more importantly, the Iraqi SOF was ready to go 100%. The SOF training was the most important and our withdrawing from Iraq cut said SOF forces off from valuable intel and mobility assets needed to do the job against threats to Iraq.
    "The transition from democracy to tyranny is most easily brought about by a popular leader who knows how to exploit the class antagonism between the rich and the poor within the democratic state, and who succeeds in building up a bodyguard of a private army of his own. The people who have hailed him first as the champion of freedom are soon enslaved."

    -From Things Plato Never Said

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    Re: Obama the blamer talks again

    Quote Originally Posted by wordjazz
    Quote Originally Posted by Pacedog
    http://news.msn.com/world/obama-us-misjudged-iraqi-army-militants-threat

    He's blaming military leaders and intel on the current situation in Iraq. I beg to differ. Had he not been so hell bent on withdrawing, we'd not be in this situation. Instead of sending Joe Biden to renegotiate the SOFA, he could have been presidential and done it himself to show Maliki we were serious. Had he been serious he would have understood the risks involved in leaving Iraq before the Army and more importantly, the Iraqi SOF was ready to go 100%. The SOF training was the most important and our withdrawing from Iraq cut said SOF forces off from valuable intel and mobility assets needed to do the job against threats to Iraq.

    No, he surrounds himself with YES MEN and only hears what he wants. In many ways he is as arrogant as Adolph Hitler when it comes to military decision making. Hitler purged many of his generals as Obama has done as well. The only ones remaining are politicians like himself who are looking out for #1 and not the nation as a whole.

    If there is anyone to blame, it is himself.
    If 9 years of training was not enough, how much does it take. F..k these guys if they can't get it together. The biggest problem was and is the distrust of Sunni's for the Iraqi government and army, and Obama just successfully maneuvered Maliki out the back door and has in place a president who at least says the right things. If their boots don't get on the ground, we've done what we reasonably can by supporting them in ways only we can, without fighting their GD battles for them.

    It's not just the army.....the SOF is the difference maker and nine years isn't a lot of time when you are talking these sorts of operators. Not only did we leave, but we pulled the plug on any intel support and other tangibles that give SOF their edge. I know it's hard for you to grasp that concept. They aren't community organizing.

  11. #11

    Re: Obama the blamer talks again

    Obama hasn't yet figured out that he cannot vote "present" and run the country.

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    Re: Obama the blamer talks again

    Quote Originally Posted by Pacedog
    Quote Originally Posted by wordjazz
    Quote Originally Posted by Pacedog
    http://news.msn.com/world/obama-us-misjudged-iraqi-army-militants-threat

    He's blaming military leaders and intel on the current situation in Iraq. I beg to differ. Had he not been so hell bent on withdrawing, we'd not be in this situation. Instead of sending Joe Biden to renegotiate the SOFA, he could have been presidential and done it himself to show Maliki we were serious. Had he been serious he would have understood the risks involved in leaving Iraq before the Army and more importantly, the Iraqi SOF was ready to go 100%. The SOF training was the most important and our withdrawing from Iraq cut said SOF forces off from valuable intel and mobility assets needed to do the job against threats to Iraq.

    No, he surrounds himself with YES MEN and only hears what he wants. In many ways he is as arrogant as Adolph Hitler when it comes to military decision making. Hitler purged many of his generals as Obama has done as well. The only ones remaining are politicians like himself who are looking out for #1 and not the nation as a whole.

    If there is anyone to blame, it is himself.
    If 9 years of training was not enough, how much does it take. F..k these guys if they can't get it together. The biggest problem was and is the distrust of Sunni's for the Iraqi government and army, and Obama just successfully maneuvered Maliki out the back door and has in place a president who at least says the right things. If their boots don't get on the ground, we've done what we reasonably can by supporting them in ways only we can, without fighting their GD battles for them.

    It's not just the army.....the SOF is the difference maker and nine years isn't a lot of time when you are talking these sorts of operators. Not only did we leave, but we pulled the plug on any intel support and other tangibles that give SOF their edge. I know it's hard for you to grasp that concept. They aren't community organizing.
    We've been training Iraqi SOF in Jordan, not that they are going to make the difference maker when 30,000 from the Iraqi army deserted recently. I know you prefer your country being run by a drug store cowboy with a background in cheerleading.

  13. #13

    Re: Obama the blamer talks again

    Quote Originally Posted by wordjazz
    Quote Originally Posted by Pacedog
    Quote Originally Posted by wordjazz
    Quote Originally Posted by Pacedog
    http://news.msn.com/world/obama-us-misjudged-iraqi-army-militants-threat

    He's blaming military leaders and intel on the current situation in Iraq. I beg to differ. Had he not been so hell bent on withdrawing, we'd not be in this situation. Instead of sending Joe Biden to renegotiate the SOFA, he could have been presidential and done it himself to show Maliki we were serious. Had he been serious he would have understood the risks involved in leaving Iraq before the Army and more importantly, the Iraqi SOF was ready to go 100%. The SOF training was the most important and our withdrawing from Iraq cut said SOF forces off from valuable intel and mobility assets needed to do the job against threats to Iraq.

    No, he surrounds himself with YES MEN and only hears what he wants. In many ways he is as arrogant as Adolph Hitler when it comes to military decision making. Hitler purged many of his generals as Obama has done as well. The only ones remaining are politicians like himself who are looking out for #1 and not the nation as a whole.

    If there is anyone to blame, it is himself.
    If 9 years of training was not enough, how much does it take. F..k these guys if they can't get it together. The biggest problem was and is the distrust of Sunni's for the Iraqi government and army, and Obama just successfully maneuvered Maliki out the back door and has in place a president who at least says the right things. If their boots don't get on the ground, we've done what we reasonably can by supporting them in ways only we can, without fighting their GD battles for them.

    It's not just the army.....the SOF is the difference maker and nine years isn't a lot of time when you are talking these sorts of operators. Not only did we leave, but we pulled the plug on any intel support and other tangibles that give SOF their edge. I know it's hard for you to grasp that concept. They aren't community organizing.
    We've been training Iraqi SOF in Jordan, not that they are going to make the difference maker when 30,000 from the Iraqi army deserted recently. I know you prefer your country being run by a drug store cowboy with a background in cheerleading.

    Yes, SOF can eliminate this army. It's called going after the playmakers and people who make things happen in this organization. Hit the necessary COGS (centers of gravity especially the one funding this group) and it is down for the count. The problem with SOF is that they aren't made over night. There is no two week crash course to create special operators. RC used to have a guy named Ponchfrog. He was/is a Navy Seal. Just for those guys themselves, it's a 2.5 to 3 year pipeline IF you can get people able to make it through the program. You can't just plug anyone in that doesn't have the skill set and expect them to be effective. I wouldn't expect you to understand that process because the entire knowledge base you have of this topic is what you have gleaned reading and listening to CNN.

  14. #14

    Re: Obama the blamer talks again

    Or we could have kept this guy and his group intact instead of running him off to the UAE

    http://news.yahoo.com/blackwater-founde ... itics.html

    Prince has set up a private army in the UAE now to counter any threats to that nation.

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