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    Gang Bangers Shoot Innocent 9-Year-Old, Police Blames Guns

    Four Chicago Gang Bangers Shot Innocent 9-Year-Old To Death, Police Chief Blames Guns



    Police in Chicago have arrested four gang members in the murder of a 9-year-old boy and say the shooting was gang-related.

    On August 20, 9-year-old Antonio Smith Jr. was shot by four men who thought he was there to warn rival gang members that they were coming to shoot them. Smith’s family had just moved to the neighborhood and neighbors say the boy did not know the gang territory “boundaries” that locals have become accustomed to.

    At first the police had little to go on but Police Superintendent Garry McCarthy says members of the community stepped up to find the boy’s killers.

    “The community refused to stay silent and provided us with vital information that culminated in the arrest of these offenders,” McCarthy told reporters on Friday.

    Police say the two men were driving in two cars looking to gun down rival gang members. They spotted two men and the alleged gunman, 19-year-old Derrick Allmon, got out of his car. He walked over to one of his accomplices, 22-year-old Jabari Williams, who handed him a gun and sent him to shoot the two men.

    “As Allmon approached his intended targets on foot, he came across Antonio Smith in the yard of a residence,” McCarthy said. “Believing that Antonio Smith was yelling a warning to his intended victims, Allmon shot Antonio Smith multiple times, wounding him fatally.”

    Police say Allmon had just been paroled at the time of the incident after serving just 1.5 years of a 3.5-year sentence for weapons charges.

    “He should not have been on the street to commit this murder,” McCarthy said, taking a stab at the state law that allows offenders early release for good behavior because the prisons in Illinois are woefully overcrowded. “The real kicker to this entire case is that it didn’t have to happen.”

    Police say the gun recovered from the crime scene has also been linked to two other separate shootings.

    “Chicago’s murder problem is a gun problem,” McCarthy said. “It’s too easy to get a firearm.”

    Police have charged Allmon and Williams with murder. They have also charged 19-year-old Michael Baker and 19-year-old Paris Denard, who were with Allmon and Williams at the time, with murder.

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    How sick do you have to be to intentionally execute a 9-year-old?

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    It's the Gun's fault... Liberal Logic...

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    So, the gang bangers possessed the guns illegally, but we need more laws to prevent the gang bangers from having guns. Sounds rational to me. :roll:

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    Quote Originally Posted by finance85
    So, the gang bangers possessed the guns illegally, but we need more laws to prevent the gang bangers from having guns. Sounds rational to me. :roll:
    I hope this means that when killers do obtain their guns legally, like with most mass shootings, you will agree that the laws weren't strict enough. Otherwise you're full of ****.

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    By the way, the gun came from Indiana, which has looser gun laws than Illinois, which happens to be a major source of guns in Cook county. But, no, loose gun laws have absolutely nothing to do with gang bangers easily obtaining guns.

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    Indiana requires no background checks or proof of transaction. This thing has straw purchase written all over it.

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    It works like this.

    There has to be lots of guns easily available to criminals so that there is a lot of violent crime so the gun manufacturers and conservatives can get wealthy off of all the dead bodies while screaming about federal storm troopers turning America into 1 big internment camp the day we make all gun transactions pass a background check and keep track of all transactions.

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    You two are straight up Morons.....

    People with intent,...will commit crimes,... with fuggin crowbars, if that is all that is around....

    What a bunch of hooie

    If the GOOD Citizens of CHicago had guns,... it would make the Criminals think twice about pulling one out... to do something BAD.


    Get it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Huey Grey
    Quote Originally Posted by finance85
    So, the gang bangers possessed the guns illegally, but we need more laws to prevent the gang bangers from having guns. Sounds rational to me. :roll:
    I hope this means that when killers do obtain their guns legally, like with most mass shootings, you will agree that the laws weren't strict enough. Otherwise you're full of s^$t.
    If someone is willing to murder people, does't that automatically mean they have no regard for the law? Murder is against the law. A gun is simply a tool, just like fertilizer and diesel fuel.

    People have a right to own a gun, guaranteed by the 2nd Amendment. It's that simple.

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    Quote Originally Posted by finance85
    Quote Originally Posted by Huey Grey
    Quote Originally Posted by finance85
    So, the gang bangers possessed the guns illegally, but we need more laws to prevent the gang bangers from having guns. Sounds rational to me. :roll:
    I hope this means that when killers do obtain their guns legally, like with most mass shootings, you will agree that the laws weren't strict enough. Otherwise you're full of s^$t.
    If someone is willing to murder people, does't that automatically mean they have no regard for the law? Murder is against the law. A gun is simply a tool, just like fertilizer and diesel fuel.

    People have a right to own a gun, guaranteed by the 2nd Amendment. It's that simple.


    And that right can be well regulated as even Scalia noted in Heller.

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    If these thugs didn't have access to guns, do you think the 9-year-old would have lived?

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Tradition
    If these thugs didn't have access to guns, do you think the 9-year-old would have lived?

    Perhaps. I know a lot other people would still be alive in this country if we had much stricter gun regulations.

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    You are ate up with stupid brookie....

    If the right to own a gun was not such a right wing thing... you would be all for it,... this is just you playing party line politics.... Everyone owning a gun would make EVERYONE SAFER.

    Mandated Gun Ownership: A Tale of Two Cities


    Over the past week I have written several articles on gun control. This all stems from the tide that rises after events such as those that took place in Aurora, Colorado this past weekend. However, there needs to be real comparisons made for the claims I've made and so I am offering a real life comparison of the liberal approach to gun control and the conservative approach to the Second Amendment.
    Let's take a city all the way across the country from Aurora, Colorado: Kennesaw, Georgia. Instead of having gun control laws, the city has actually mandated gun ownership. What a revolutionary idea (pun intended)!
    In 1982 the city of Kennesaw passed an ordinance [Sec 34-21] that read:
    (a) In order to provide for the emergency management of the city, and further in order to provide for and protect the safety, security and general welfare of the city and its inhabitants, every head of household residing in the city limits is required to maintain a firearm, together with ammunition therefore.
    (b)Exempt from the effect of this section are those heads of households who suffer a physical or mental disability which would prohibit them from using such a firearm. Further exempt from the effect of this section are those heads of households who are paupers or who conscientiously oppose maintaining firearms as a result of beliefs or religious doctrine, or persons convicted of a felony.
    This was in response to the town of Morton Grove, IL, which is located near Chicago, another city that wants to keep guns out of the hands of law abiding citizens, which sought a handgun ban. Notice the ordinance does provide exemptions of certain people, but overall they make sure that each homeowner has the ability to protect themselves.
    David Kopel, a gun rights activist, claims that the law reduced the rate of burglaries in the first year. The number of burglaries prior to the ordinance were 65. The following years, 1983-84, showed dramatic drops in burglaries down to 26 and then 11. Newsmax also confirms the drop that Kopel claims.
    The city now proclaims on its website,
    Kennesaw once again was in the news on May 1, 1982, when the city unanimously passed a law requiring "every head of household to maintain a firearm together with ammunition." After passage of the law, the burglary rate in Kennesaw declined and even today, the City has the lowest crime rate in Cobb County.
    Gary DeMar, who lives near Kennesaw writes about the virtually non-existent murder rate,
    In fact, from 1982 through 2009, Kennesaw had been nearly murder free with one murder occurring in 2007.
    There were three murders in 2010 committed by the same man in what is described as a “school safety zone,” an area extending 1,000 feet from any school, including adult colleges and technical schools. This means that even though Kennesaw has the most liberal gun laws in the United States, employees at the facility where the murders were committed could not have a gun on the premises.
    All of this and Kennesaw, Georgia is nothing like the stories of the Wild West, which truthfully really weren't that wild.
    Now compare a city like Kennesaw to New York City, a place where the mayor says that police should "go on strike" until people demand more gun control laws from their legislatures. In 2010 alone, New York City saw 515 murders! As of May 18, 2012 there were already 136 murders in the city, and if we go back to 1990 there were 2,245 murders. Compare that to DeMar's numbers cited for Kennesaw where over the course of nearly two decades they had only one murder and then they saw three in a "gun free zone."
    Not only is the murder rate an issue in New York City a problem, but their ridiculous gun laws turn law abiding citizens into criminals.
    For instance, remember Mark Meckler, the Tea Party leader who was arrested back in December for having his weapons declared and in a locked box with ammunition as he traveled from New York to California? Mackler faced up to fifteen years, but instead plead guilty and was fined $250 and given a one-year conditional discharge.
    Take former Marine Ryan Jerome, who traveled to New York City with his .45 Ruger for protection as he was handling $15,000 worth of gold. When he attempted to do the right thing and check his weapon at the Empire State Building he was also arrested. This was a misdemeanor charge. In his case, he plead guilty and was fined $1,200 and required to perform 10 hours of community service. It's ironic that one entrusted with weapons for the defense of the nation is not looked at the same way when he is out of uniform.
    Ironically in Jerome's case, another young lady from Tennessee also had a misdemeanor charge but walked out with no community service and only a $200 fine. What do you think the state of New York City is really trying to teach in this situation?
    I confirmed with Kennesaw Police Department that they employ 63 officers, while New York City has a small army with 35,000 uniformed officers in its counterterrorism unit alone.
    So let's see here, would you rather live in a place that employees a small army and is practically a police state that can't protect you, infringes upon your Second Amendment rights and has hundreds of murders annually or would you prefer one of Family Circle's "10 best towns for families" where the rights of individuals protecting themselves with a firearm are encouraged and even mandated and in the past 25 years there have been less murders than you can count on one hand? Does it appear that more gun laws are the answer or simply more people with guns?
    New York City promotes gun control. Kennesaw promotes the Second Amendment. Any questions?

    http://freedomoutpost.com/2012/07/ma...meuGTfFdsw4.99

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    [quote=Brooklyn Nole]
    Quote Originally Posted by "The Tradition":2tdwz174
    If these thugs didn't have access to guns, do you think the 9-year-old would have lived?

    Perhaps. I know a lot other people would still be alive in this country if we had much stricter gun regulations.[/quote:2tdwz174]

    You don't know that. These people may have died of other causes had guns not existed.

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    [quote=The Tradition][quote="Brooklyn Nole":iyvm67d8]
    Quote Originally Posted by "The Tradition":iyvm67d8
    If these thugs didn't have access to guns, do you think the 9-year-old would have lived?

    Perhaps. I know a lot other people would still be alive in this country if we had much stricter gun regulations.[/quote:iyvm67d8]

    You don't know that. These people may have died of other causes had guns not existed.[/quote:iyvm67d8]


    I know that because homicide rates are much higher in the US than most of the civilized world.

    Try harder Trad - pretty please.

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    Brookie being condescending.... Is pure comedy

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    Homicide rates proves my point. You think someone out to kill someone is just going to say, "Golly, if I only had a gun! We'll I guess he's off the hook, goshdarnit!"

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    Stop, just stop the madness.

    We have a lot more guns in society and a lot more dead bodies caused by gun use than any other country.

    This is not debatable.

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    Re: Gang Bangers Shoot Innocent 9-Year-Old, Police Blames Gu

    Quote Originally Posted by Brooklyn Nole
    Stop, just stop the madness.

    We have a lot more guns in society and a lot more dead bodies caused by gun use than any other country.

    This is not debatable.
    Because he Says so...it is not Debatable

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