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    Another GW Busch Success Story

    The obliteration of Christianity in Iraq is nearly complete. Didn't Busch claim that God told him to go to war? Why hasn't he been brought up on charges as he is a thorough and complete war criminal?


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    Re: Another GW Busch Success Story

    Quote Originally Posted by TC_Nole_OX
    The obliteration of Christianity in Iraq is nearly complete. Didn't Busch claim that God told him to go to war? Why hasn't he been brought up on charges as he is a thorough and complete war criminal?


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    Trey Gowdy will get right on it.

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    Re: Another GW Busch Success Story

    Quote Originally Posted by TC_Nole_OX
    The obliteration of Christianity in Iraq is nearly complete. Didn't Busch claim that God told him to go to war? Why hasn't he been brought up on charges as he is a thorough and complete war criminal?


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    Didn't those Democrats and the rest of the world sign off on the war? Yes, they did. Christians are being killed because Obama cut and run instead of finishing the job of training the Iraqi army and SOF. Obama quickly realized that if he didn't get the SOFA agreement ratified by Iraq, it was a convenient excuse to go ahead and withdraw. What else would you expect when you send BUFFOON Biden to do your bidding while you shove Obamacare down everyone's throats in the middle of the night through the process called reconciliation.

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    Yeah, Obama is completely responsible for the consequences of a war that he didn't start. Last time I checked the sof agreement was in place when Obama took office. Maybe if we had not decided to invade a sovereign country, those Christians would not be going through what they are now.

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    Re: Another GW Busch Success Story

    Quote Originally Posted by TC_Nole_OX
    The obliteration of Christianity in Iraq is nearly complete. Didn't Busch claim that God told him to go to war? Why hasn't he been brought up on charges as he is a thorough and complete war criminal?


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    If anything, after 9/11 we should've quietly approached Saddam and seen if he was open to working together to hunt Al-Qaeda, he hated them too. In return for that and him curbing the worst excesses of his regime, we could've given him diplomatic recognition, shared some intelligence, and maybe sent some aid. Worth a try, at least.

    Instead, we effectively (and literally) blew up Iraq and guaranteed the future handover of what was left to Iran (the bigger problem) and Al-Qaeda on steroids. One of the worst geopolitical blunders in U.S. history.
    You shut your mouth when you're talking to me!

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    Re: Another GW Busch Success Story

    Quote Originally Posted by Pacedog
    Quote Originally Posted by TC_Nole_OX
    The obliteration of Christianity in Iraq is nearly complete. Didn't Busch claim that God told him to go to war? Why hasn't he been brought up on charges as he is a thorough and complete war criminal?


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    Didn't those Democrats and the rest of the world sign off on the war? Yes, they did. Christians are being killed because Obama cut and run instead of finishing the job of training the Iraqi army and SOF. Obama quickly realized that if he didn't get the SOFA agreement ratified by Iraq, it was a convenient excuse to go ahead and withdraw. What else would you expect when you send BUFFOON Biden to do your bidding while you shove Obamacare down everyone's throats in the middle of the night through the process called reconciliation.
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    Re: Another GW Busch Success Story

    Quote Originally Posted by Pacedog
    Quote Originally Posted by TC_Nole_OX
    The obliteration of Christianity in Iraq is nearly complete. Didn't Busch claim that God told him to go to war? Why hasn't he been brought up on charges as he is a thorough and complete war criminal?


    http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/ ... inions_pop
    Didn't those Democrats and the rest of the world sign off on the war? Yes, they did. Christians are being killed because Obama cut and run instead of finishing the job of training the Iraqi army and SOF. Obama quickly realized that if he didn't get the SOFA agreement ratified by Iraq, it was a convenient excuse to go ahead and withdraw. What else would you expect when you send BUFFOON Biden to do your bidding while you shove Obamacare down everyone's throats in the middle of the night through the process called reconciliation.
    ^^This

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    Re: Another GW Busch Success Story

    Quote Originally Posted by Pacedog
    Quote Originally Posted by TC_Nole_OX
    The obliteration of Christianity in Iraq is nearly complete. Didn't Busch claim that God told him to go to war? Why hasn't he been brought up on charges as he is a thorough and complete war criminal?


    http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/ ... inions_pop
    Didn't those Democrats and the rest of the world sign off on the war? Yes, they did. Christians are being killed because Obama cut and run instead of finishing the job of training the Iraqi army and SOF. Obama quickly realized that if he didn't get the SOFA agreement ratified by Iraq, it was a convenient excuse to go ahead and withdraw. What else would you expect when you send BUFFOON Biden to do your bidding while you shove Obamacare down everyone's throats in the middle of the night through the process called reconciliation.

    Fine. Investigate the whole mess and if any Democrats lied to get us into Iraq let's find out. By the way, most Democrats in the House voted against the war and close to half in the Senate. Get Trey Gowdy on it. Boy needs something to do besides investigating a relatively minor incident that's already been gone over 4 times.

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    Re: Another GW Busch Success Story

    Quote Originally Posted by NoleSoup4U
    Quote Originally Posted by Pacedog
    Quote Originally Posted by TC_Nole_OX
    The obliteration of Christianity in Iraq is nearly complete. Didn't Busch claim that God told him to go to war? Why hasn't he been brought up on charges as he is a thorough and complete war criminal?


    http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/ ... inions_pop
    Didn't those Democrats and the rest of the world sign off on the war? Yes, they did. Christians are being killed because Obama cut and run instead of finishing the job of training the Iraqi army and SOF. Obama quickly realized that if he didn't get the SOFA agreement ratified by Iraq, it was a convenient excuse to go ahead and withdraw. What else would you expect when you send BUFFOON Biden to do your bidding while you shove Obamacare down everyone's throats in the middle of the night through the process called reconciliation.
    Deflection, deflection, deflection.

    FACT-

    Of course, with the liberal left everything is a lie if it is about some thing they do not support and the information does not come from the DAILYKOS.

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    Re: Another GW Busch Success Story

    Quote Originally Posted by wordjazz
    Quote Originally Posted by Pacedog
    Quote Originally Posted by TC_Nole_OX
    The obliteration of Christianity in Iraq is nearly complete. Didn't Busch claim that God told him to go to war? Why hasn't he been brought up on charges as he is a thorough and complete war criminal?


    http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/ ... inions_pop
    Didn't those Democrats and the rest of the world sign off on the war? Yes, they did. Christians are being killed because Obama cut and run instead of finishing the job of training the Iraqi army and SOF. Obama quickly realized that if he didn't get the SOFA agreement ratified by Iraq, it was a convenient excuse to go ahead and withdraw. What else would you expect when you send BUFFOON Biden to do your bidding while you shove Obamacare down everyone's throats in the middle of the night through the process called reconciliation.
    Quotes from Democrats about WMD

    "One way or the other, we are determined to deny Iraq the capacity to develop weapons of mass destruction and the missiles to deliver them. That is our bottom line."
    President Clinton, Feb. 4, 1998

    Quoted on CNN

    "If Saddam rejects peace and we have to use force, our purpose is clear. We want to seriously diminish the threat posed by Iraq's weapons of mass destruction program." — President Clinton, Feb. 17, 1998

    Quoted on CNN

    Iraq is a long way from [here], but what happens there matters a great deal here. For the risks that the leaders of a rogue state will use nuclear, chemical or biological weapons against us or our allies is the greatest security threat we face." — Madeline Albright, Feb 18, 1998

    Transcript of remarks made at a Town Hall meeting in Columbus, Ohio — from USIA

    "He will use those weapons of mass destruction again, as he has ten times since 1983." — Sandy Berger, Clinton National Security Adviser, Feb 18, 1998

    Transcript of remarks made at a Town Hall Meeting in Columbus, Ohio — From USIA

    "We urge you, after consulting with Congress, and consistent with the US Constitution and laws, to take necessary actions (including, if appropriate, air and missile strikes on suspect Iraqi sites) to respond effectively to the threat posed by Iraq's refusal to end its weapons of mass destruction programs." — Letter to President Clinton, signed by Sens. Carl Levin (D-MI), Tom Daschle (D-SD), John Kerry (D — MA), and others Oct. 9, 1998

    See letter to Clinton by Levin, Daschle, Kerry and others

    "Saddam Hussein has been engaged in the development of weapons of mass destruction technology which is a threat to countries in the region and he has made a mockery of the weapons inspection process." — Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D, CA), Dec. 16, 1998

    Statement by Rep. Nancy Pelosi — House of Representatives website

    "Hussein has chosen to spend his money on building weapons of mass destruction and palaces for his cronies." — Madeline Albright, Clinton Secretary of State, Nov. 10, 1999

    Answer to a question at the Chicago Council of Foreign Affairs

    "There is no doubt that . Saddam Hussein has invigorated his weapons programs. Reports indicate that biological, chemical and nuclear programs continue apace and may be back to pre-Gulf War status. In addition, Saddam continues to redefine delivery systems and is doubtless using the cover of a licit missile program to develop longer-range missiles that will threaten the United States and our allies." — Letter to President Bush, Signed by Sen Bob Graham (D, FL,) and others, December 5, 2001

    Letter to President George W. Bush signed by 9 Congressmen, including Democrats Harold Ford, Jr., Joseph Lieberman, and Benjamin Gilman.

    " We should be hell bent on getting those weapons of mass destruction, hell bent on having a credible approach to them, but we should try to do it in a way which keeps the world together and that achieves our goal which is removing the... defanging Saddam.." — Sen. Carl Levin (D, MI), Dec. 9, 2002

    Online with Jim Lehrer — Public Broadcasting Service

    "We know that he has stored secret supplies of biological and chemical weapons throughout his country." — Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002

    Transcript of Gore's speech, printed in USA Today

    "Iraq's search for weapons of mass destruction has proven impossible to deter and we should assume that it will continue for as long as Saddam is in power." — Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002

    Transcript of Gore's speech, printed in USA Today

    "We have known for many years that Saddam Hussein is seeking and developing weapons of mass destruction." — Sen. Ted Kennedy (D, MA), Sept. 27, 2002

    U.S. Senate — Ted Kennedy

    "The last UN weapons inspectors left Iraq in October of 1998. We are confident that Saddam Hussein retains some stockpiles of chemical and biological weapons, and that he has since embarked on a crash course to build up his chemical and biological warfare capabilities. Intelligence reports indicate that he is seeking nuclear weapons..." — Sen. Robert Byrd (D, WV), Oct. 3, 2002

    Congressional Record — Robert Byrd

    "When I vote to give the President of the United States the authority to use force, if necessary, to disarm Saddam Hussein, it is because I believe that a deadly arsenal of weapons of mass destruction in his hands is a threat, and a grave threat, to our security and that of our allies in the Persian Gulf region. I will vote yes because I believe it is the best way to hold Saddam Hussein accountable." —Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Oct. 9,2002

    Congressional Record — Sen. John F. Kerry

    "There is unmistakable evidence that Saddam Hussein is working aggressively to develop nuclear weapons and will likely have nuclear weapons within the next five years .. We also should remember we have always underestimated the progress Saddam has made in development of weapons of mass destruction." — Sen. Jay Rockefeller (D, WV), Oct 10, 2002

    Congressional Record — Sen. Jay Rockefeller

    "He has systematically violated, over the course of the past 11 years, every significant UN resolution that has demanded that he disarm and destroy his chemical and biological weapons, and any nuclear capacity. This he has refused to do" — Rep. Henry Waxman (D, CA), Oct. 10, 2002

    Congressional Record — Rep. Henry Waxman

    "In 1998, the United States also changed its underlying policy toward Iraq from containment to regime change and began to examine options to effect such a change, including support for Iraqi opposition leaders within the country and abroad. In the 4 years since the inspectors, intelligence reports show that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological weapons stock, his missile delivery capability, and his nuclear program. He has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists, including al-Qaida members, though there is apparently no evidence of his involvement in the terrible events of September 11, 2001.

    "It is clear, however, that if left unchecked, Saddam Hussein wiill continue to increase his capability to wage biological and chemical warfare and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons. Should he succeed in that endeavor, he could alter the political and security landscape of the Middle East which, as we know all too well, affects American security."
    Sen. Hillary Clinton (D, NY), Oct 10, 2002

    Congressional Record — Sen. Hillary Clinton

    "The Joint Chiefs should provide Congress with casualty estimates for a war in Iraq as they have done in advance of every past conflict. These estimates should consider Saddam's possible use of chemical or biological weapons against our troops.

    "Unlike the gulf war, many experts believe Saddam would resort to chemical and biological weapons against our troops in a desperate -attempt to save his regime if he believes he and his regime are ultimately threatened."
    Sen. Ted Kennedy (D-MA) Oct. 8, 2002

    Congressional Record — Sen. Ted Kennedy

    "There is one thing we agree upon, and that is that Saddam Hussein is an evil man. He is a tyrant. He has used chemical and biological weapons on his own people. He has disregarded United Nations resolutions calling for inspections of his capabilities and research and development programs. His forces regularly fire on American and British jet pilots enforcing the no-fly zones in the north and south of his country. And he has the potential to develop and deploy nuclear weapons... — Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL), Dec. 8, 2002

    Congressional Record — Sen. Bob Graham

    But inspectors have had a hard time getting truthful information from the Iraqis they interview. Saddam Hussein terrorizes his people, including his weapons scientists, so effectively that they are afraid to be interviewed in private, let alone outside the country. They know that even the appearance of cooperation could be a death sentence for themselves or their families.

    "To overcome this obstacle, and to discover and dismantle Saddam Hussein's weapons of mass destruction, UNMOVIC and the IAEA must interview relevant persons securely and with their families protected, even if they protest publicly against this treatment. Hans Blix may dislike running ''a defection agency,' but that could be the only way to obtain truthful information about Saddam's weapons of mass destruction — Sen. Joseph Biden

    Congressional Record — Sen. Joseph Biden

    "With respect to Saddam Hussein and the threat he presents, we must ask ourselves a simple question: Why? Why is Saddam Hussein pursuing weapons that most nations have agreed to limit or give up? Why is Saddam Hussein guilty of breaking his own cease-fire agreement with the international community? Why is Saddam Hussein attempting to develop nuclear weapons when most nations don't even try, and responsible nations that have them attempt to limit their potential for disaster? Why did Saddam Hussein threaten and provoke? Why does he develop missiles that exceed allowable limits? Why did Saddam Hussein lie and deceive the inspection teams previously? Why did Saddam Hussein not account for all of the weapons of mass destruction which UNSCOM identified? Why is he seeking to develop unmanned airborne vehicles for delivery of biological agents?
    Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), October 9, 2002

    Congressional Record — Sen. John F. Kerry

    "Saddam Hussein's regime represents a grave threat to America and our allies, including our vital ally, Israel. For more than two decades, Saddam Hussein has sought weapons of mass destruction through every available means. We know that he has chemical and biological weapons. He has already used them against his neighbors and his own people, and is trying to build more. We know that he is doing everything he can to build nuclear weapons, and we know that each day he gets closer to achieving that goal.

    "Iraq has continued to seek nuclear weapons and develop its arsenal in defiance of the collective will of the international community, as expressed through the United Nations Security Council. It is violating the terms of the 1991 cease-fire that ended the Gulf war and as many as 16 Security Council resolutions, including 11 resolutions concerning Iraq's efforts to develop weapons of mass destruction. — Sen. John Edwards, October 10, 2002


    Fine. Investigate the whole mess and if any Democrats lied to get us into Iraq let's find out. By the way, most Democrats in the House voted against the war and close to half in the Senate. Get Trey Gowdy on it. Boy needs something to do besides investigating a relatively minor incident that's already been gone over 4 times.

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    Re: Another GW Busch Success Story

    Quotes from Democrats about WMD

    "One way or the other, we are determined to deny Iraq the capacity to develop weapons of mass destruction and the missiles to deliver them. That is our bottom line."
    President Clinton, Feb. 4, 1998

    Quoted on CNN

    "If Saddam rejects peace and we have to use force, our purpose is clear. We want to seriously diminish the threat posed by Iraq's weapons of mass destruction program." — President Clinton, Feb. 17, 1998

    Quoted on CNN

    Iraq is a long way from [here], but what happens there matters a great deal here. For the risks that the leaders of a rogue state will use nuclear, chemical or biological weapons against us or our allies is the greatest security threat we face." — Madeline Albright, Feb 18, 1998

    Transcript of remarks made at a Town Hall meeting in Columbus, Ohio — from USIA

    "He will use those weapons of mass destruction again, as he has ten times since 1983." — Sandy Berger, Clinton National Security Adviser, Feb 18, 1998

    Transcript of remarks made at a Town Hall Meeting in Columbus, Ohio — From USIA

    "We urge you, after consulting with Congress, and consistent with the US Constitution and laws, to take necessary actions (including, if appropriate, air and missile strikes on suspect Iraqi sites) to respond effectively to the threat posed by Iraq's refusal to end its weapons of mass destruction programs." — Letter to President Clinton, signed by Sens. Carl Levin (D-MI), Tom Daschle (D-SD), John Kerry (D — MA), and others Oct. 9, 1998

    See letter to Clinton by Levin, Daschle, Kerry and others

    "Saddam Hussein has been engaged in the development of weapons of mass destruction technology which is a threat to countries in the region and he has made a mockery of the weapons inspection process." — Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D, CA), Dec. 16, 1998

    Statement by Rep. Nancy Pelosi — House of Representatives website

    "Hussein has chosen to spend his money on building weapons of mass destruction and palaces for his cronies." — Madeline Albright, Clinton Secretary of State, Nov. 10, 1999

    Answer to a question at the Chicago Council of Foreign Affairs

    "There is no doubt that . Saddam Hussein has invigorated his weapons programs. Reports indicate that biological, chemical and nuclear programs continue apace and may be back to pre-Gulf War status. In addition, Saddam continues to redefine delivery systems and is doubtless using the cover of a licit missile program to develop longer-range missiles that will threaten the United States and our allies." — Letter to President Bush, Signed by Sen Bob Graham (D, FL,) and others, December 5, 2001

    Letter to President George W. Bush signed by 9 Congressmen, including Democrats Harold Ford, Jr., Joseph Lieberman, and Benjamin Gilman.

    " We should be hell bent on getting those weapons of mass destruction, hell bent on having a credible approach to them, but we should try to do it in a way which keeps the world together and that achieves our goal which is removing the... defanging Saddam.." — Sen. Carl Levin (D, MI), Dec. 9, 2002

    Online with Jim Lehrer — Public Broadcasting Service

    "We know that he has stored secret supplies of biological and chemical weapons throughout his country." — Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002

    Transcript of Gore's speech, printed in USA Today

    "Iraq's search for weapons of mass destruction has proven impossible to deter and we should assume that it will continue for as long as Saddam is in power." — Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002

    Transcript of Gore's speech, printed in USA Today

    "We have known for many years that Saddam Hussein is seeking and developing weapons of mass destruction." — Sen. Ted Kennedy (D, MA), Sept. 27, 2002

    U.S. Senate — Ted Kennedy

    "The last UN weapons inspectors left Iraq in October of 1998. We are confident that Saddam Hussein retains some stockpiles of chemical and biological weapons, and that he has since embarked on a crash course to build up his chemical and biological warfare capabilities. Intelligence reports indicate that he is seeking nuclear weapons..." — Sen. Robert Byrd (D, WV), Oct. 3, 2002

    Congressional Record — Robert Byrd

    "When I vote to give the President of the United States the authority to use force, if necessary, to disarm Saddam Hussein, it is because I believe that a deadly arsenal of weapons of mass destruction in his hands is a threat, and a grave threat, to our security and that of our allies in the Persian Gulf region. I will vote yes because I believe it is the best way to hold Saddam Hussein accountable." —Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Oct. 9,2002

    Congressional Record — Sen. John F. Kerry

    "There is unmistakable evidence that Saddam Hussein is working aggressively to develop nuclear weapons and will likely have nuclear weapons within the next five years .. We also should remember we have always underestimated the progress Saddam has made in development of weapons of mass destruction." — Sen. Jay Rockefeller (D, WV), Oct 10, 2002

    Congressional Record — Sen. Jay Rockefeller

    "He has systematically violated, over the course of the past 11 years, every significant UN resolution that has demanded that he disarm and destroy his chemical and biological weapons, and any nuclear capacity. This he has refused to do" — Rep. Henry Waxman (D, CA), Oct. 10, 2002

    Congressional Record — Rep. Henry Waxman

    "In 1998, the United States also changed its underlying policy toward Iraq from containment to regime change and began to examine options to effect such a change, including support for Iraqi opposition leaders within the country and abroad. In the 4 years since the inspectors, intelligence reports show that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological weapons stock, his missile delivery capability, and his nuclear program. He has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists, including al-Qaida members, though there is apparently no evidence of his involvement in the terrible events of September 11, 2001.

    "It is clear, however, that if left unchecked, Saddam Hussein wiill continue to increase his capability to wage biological and chemical warfare and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons. Should he succeed in that endeavor, he could alter the political and security landscape of the Middle East which, as we know all too well, affects American security."
    Sen. Hillary Clinton (D, NY), Oct 10, 2002

    Congressional Record — Sen. Hillary Clinton

    "The Joint Chiefs should provide Congress with casualty estimates for a war in Iraq as they have done in advance of every past conflict. These estimates should consider Saddam's possible use of chemical or biological weapons against our troops.

    "Unlike the gulf war, many experts believe Saddam would resort to chemical and biological weapons against our troops in a desperate -attempt to save his regime if he believes he and his regime are ultimately threatened."
    Sen. Ted Kennedy (D-MA) Oct. 8, 2002

    Congressional Record — Sen. Ted Kennedy

    "There is one thing we agree upon, and that is that Saddam Hussein is an evil man. He is a tyrant. He has used chemical and biological weapons on his own people. He has disregarded United Nations resolutions calling for inspections of his capabilities and research and development programs. His forces regularly fire on American and British jet pilots enforcing the no-fly zones in the north and south of his country. And he has the potential to develop and deploy nuclear weapons... — Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL), Dec. 8, 2002

    Congressional Record — Sen. Bob Graham

    But inspectors have had a hard time getting truthful information from the Iraqis they interview. Saddam Hussein terrorizes his people, including his weapons scientists, so effectively that they are afraid to be interviewed in private, let alone outside the country. They know that even the appearance of cooperation could be a death sentence for themselves or their families.

    "To overcome this obstacle, and to discover and dismantle Saddam Hussein's weapons of mass destruction, UNMOVIC and the IAEA must interview relevant persons securely and with their families protected, even if they protest publicly against this treatment. Hans Blix may dislike running ''a defection agency,' but that could be the only way to obtain truthful information about Saddam's weapons of mass destruction — Sen. Joseph Biden

    Congressional Record — Sen. Joseph Biden

    "With respect to Saddam Hussein and the threat he presents, we must ask ourselves a simple question: Why? Why is Saddam Hussein pursuing weapons that most nations have agreed to limit or give up? Why is Saddam Hussein guilty of breaking his own cease-fire agreement with the international community? Why is Saddam Hussein attempting to develop nuclear weapons when most nations don't even try, and responsible nations that have them attempt to limit their potential for disaster? Why did Saddam Hussein threaten and provoke? Why does he develop missiles that exceed allowable limits? Why did Saddam Hussein lie and deceive the inspection teams previously? Why did Saddam Hussein not account for all of the weapons of mass destruction which UNSCOM identified? Why is he seeking to develop unmanned airborne vehicles for delivery of biological agents?
    Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), October 9, 2002

    Congressional Record — Sen. John F. Kerry

    "Saddam Hussein's regime represents a grave threat to America and our allies, including our vital ally, Israel. For more than two decades, Saddam Hussein has sought weapons of mass destruction through every available means. We know that he has chemical and biological weapons. He has already used them against his neighbors and his own people, and is trying to build more. We know that he is doing everything he can to build nuclear weapons, and we know that each day he gets closer to achieving that goal.

    "Iraq has continued to seek nuclear weapons and develop its arsenal in defiance of the collective will of the international community, as expressed through the United Nations Security Council. It is violating the terms of the 1991 cease-fire that ended the Gulf war and as many as 16 Security Council resolutions, including 11 resolutions concerning Iraq's efforts to develop weapons of mass destruction. — Sen. John Edwards, October 10, 2002

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    http://www.cnn.com/2003/WORLD/meast/03/ ... pstoryview

    Why do you have chem weapons suits in your possession unless you are contemplating using said weapons against the enemy?

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    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/co ... 00530.html

    Oh snap.....more

    Sunday, August 14, 2005



    BAGHDAD, Aug. 13 -- U.S. troops raiding a warehouse in the northern city of Mosul uncovered a suspected chemical weapons factory containing 1,500 gallons of chemicals believed destined for attacks on U.S. and Iraqi forces and civilians, military officials said Saturday.


    Monday's early morning raid found 11 precursor agents, "some of them quite dangerous by themselves," a military spokesman, Lt. Col. Steven A. Boylan, said in Baghdad.

    Combined, the chemicals would yield an agent capable of "lingering hazards" for those exposed to it, Boylan said. The likely targets would have been "coalition and Iraqi security forces, and Iraqi civilians," partly because the chemicals would be difficult to keep from spreading over a wide area, he said.

    Boylan said the suspected lab was new, dating from some time after the U.S.-led invasion of Iraq in 2003

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    Re: Another GW Busch Success Story

    Quote Originally Posted by wordjazz
    Quote Originally Posted by Pacedog
    Quote Originally Posted by TC_Nole_OX
    The obliteration of Christianity in Iraq is nearly complete. Didn't Busch claim that God told him to go to war? Why hasn't he been brought up on charges as he is a thorough and complete war criminal?


    http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/ ... inions_pop
    Didn't those Democrats and the rest of the world sign off on the war? Yes, they did. Christians are being killed because Obama cut and run instead of finishing the job of training the Iraqi army and SOF. Obama quickly realized that if he didn't get the SOFA agreement ratified by Iraq, it was a convenient excuse to go ahead and withdraw. What else would you expect when you send BUFFOON Biden to do your bidding while you shove Obamacare down everyone's throats in the middle of the night through the process called reconciliation.

    Fine. Investigate the whole mess and if any Democrats lied to get us into Iraq let's find out. By the way, most Democrats in the House voted against the war and close to half in the Senate. Get Trey Gowdy on it. Boy needs something to do besides investigating a relatively minor incident that's already been gone over 4 times.

    Revisionist history at its finest right there, folks. Doesn't get much better than that.
    Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities.


    Voltaire (1694 - 1778)

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    http://www.thewire.com/global/2012/07/d ... dam/55142/

    Saddam Smuggled the Stockpile to Syria and Hoodwinked the World. Last night, a smug Victor Davis Hanson at Investors Business Daily said the media was wrong to so eagerly dismiss the story of Hussein's 11th hour smuggling adventure. "Although the story was met with general neglect or scorn from the U.S. media, the present director of national intelligence, James Clapper, long ago asserted his belief in such a weapons transfer," he writes. That's true. As director of the National Geospatial Intelligence Agency, Clapper said in 2003 that satellite images showing a heavy flow of traffic from Iraq to Syria "unquestionably" show that illicit weapons were moved out of Iraq. Another frequently cited believer in a Saddam smuggling effort is former Iraqi general George Sada, an adviser to the late dictator. "They were moved by air and by ground, 56 sorties by jumbo, 747, and 27 were moved, after they were converted to cargo aircraft, they were moved to Syria," he told Fox News in 2006. That account differed from Clapper's who said the smuggling occurred in March of 2003, not 2002, as Sada claimed. While Sada's story perhaps just adds more confusion to the theory, one thing is definitely clear: There was a large buildup of traffic between Syria and Iraq in March 2003. This week, journalist Harvey Morris opened up his old notes and gave corroborating facts to Clapper's claim in an account for The New York Times:


    As I drove east from Damascus in mid-March 2003 to cross the border into Iraq, my Iraqi Kurdish companion said he had spoken to Kurdish truck drivers who regularly used the road.

    They reported an unusual build-up of traffic out of Iraq in previous days. Closed convoys of unmarked trucks, which other drivers were forbidden from approaching or overtaking, had been streaming across the border into Syria.

    My companion was a former Kurdish peshmerga militia leader. A survivor of thallium poisoning by agents of Saddam Hussein, he was returning from Europe in time for the impending war. What did he make of the truck drivers’ tales? Were the convoys carrying weapons? Who knew? The story died in the general plethora of war preparations.

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    Re: Another GW Busch Success Story

    Quote Originally Posted by Tribe92
    Quote Originally Posted by TC_Nole_OX
    The obliteration of Christianity in Iraq is nearly complete. Didn't Busch claim that God told him to go to war? Why hasn't he been brought up on charges as he is a thorough and complete war criminal?


    http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/ ... inions_pop
    If anything, after 9/11 we should've quietly approached Saddam and seen if he was open to working together to hunt Al-Qaeda, he hated them too. In return for that and him curbing the worst excesses of his regime, we could've given him diplomatic recognition, shared some intelligence, and maybe sent some aid. Worth a try, at least.

    Instead, we effectively (and literally) blew up Iraq and guaranteed the future handover of what was left to Iran (the bigger problem) and Al-Qaeda on steroids. One of the worst geopolitical blunders in U.S. history.
    We are about to repeat that blunder with Syria.

  17. #17

    Re: Another GW Busch Success Story

    Quote Originally Posted by Pacedog
    Quote Originally Posted by NoleSoup4U
    Quote Originally Posted by Pacedog
    Quote Originally Posted by TC_Nole_OX
    The obliteration of Christianity in Iraq is nearly complete. Didn't Busch claim that God told him to go to war? Why hasn't he been brought up on charges as he is a thorough and complete war criminal?


    http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/ ... inions_pop
    Didn't those Democrats and the rest of the world sign off on the war? Yes, they did. Christians are being killed because Obama cut and run instead of finishing the job of training the Iraqi army and SOF. Obama quickly realized that if he didn't get the SOFA agreement ratified by Iraq, it was a convenient excuse to go ahead and withdraw. What else would you expect when you send BUFFOON Biden to do your bidding while you shove Obamacare down everyone's throats in the middle of the night through the process called reconciliation.
    Deflection, deflection, deflection.

    FACT-

    Of course, with the liberal left everything is a lie if it is about some thing they do not support and the information does not come from the DAILYKOS.
    I didn't say it wasn't fact. I said that it was a deflection.
    I am going to tear down your safe space
    Brick by brick I shall smash it with glee
    You cannot stop me from getting inside
    I am cold and I am hard and my name is 'Reality'

  18. #18

    Re: Another GW Busch Success Story

    Quote Originally Posted by finance85
    Quote Originally Posted by Tribe92
    Quote Originally Posted by TC_Nole_OX
    The obliteration of Christianity in Iraq is nearly complete. Didn't Busch claim that God told him to go to war? Why hasn't he been brought up on charges as he is a thorough and complete war criminal?


    http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/ ... inions_pop
    If anything, after 9/11 we should've quietly approached Saddam and seen if he was open to working together to hunt Al-Qaeda, he hated them too. In return for that and him curbing the worst excesses of his regime, we could've given him diplomatic recognition, shared some intelligence, and maybe sent some aid. Worth a try, at least.

    Instead, we effectively (and literally) blew up Iraq and guaranteed the future handover of what was left to Iran (the bigger problem) and Al-Qaeda on steroids. One of the worst geopolitical blunders in U.S. history.
    We are about to repeat that blunder with Syria.

    This. Two wrongs definitely don't make a right in this instance.
    Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities.


    Voltaire (1694 - 1778)

  19. #19

    Re: Another GW Busch Success Story

    Quote Originally Posted by Pacedog
    Quotes from Democrats about WMD

    "One way or the other, we are determined to deny Iraq the capacity to develop weapons of mass destruction and the missiles to deliver them. That is our bottom line."
    President Clinton, Feb. 4, 1998

    Quoted on CNN

    "If Saddam rejects peace and we have to use force, our purpose is clear. We want to seriously diminish the threat posed by Iraq's weapons of mass destruction program." — President Clinton, Feb. 17, 1998

    Quoted on CNN

    Iraq is a long way from [here], but what happens there matters a great deal here. For the risks that the leaders of a rogue state will use nuclear, chemical or biological weapons against us or our allies is the greatest security threat we face." — Madeline Albright, Feb 18, 1998

    Transcript of remarks made at a Town Hall meeting in Columbus, Ohio — from USIA

    "He will use those weapons of mass destruction again, as he has ten times since 1983." — Sandy Berger, Clinton National Security Adviser, Feb 18, 1998

    Transcript of remarks made at a Town Hall Meeting in Columbus, Ohio — From USIA

    "We urge you, after consulting with Congress, and consistent with the US Constitution and laws, to take necessary actions (including, if appropriate, air and missile strikes on suspect Iraqi sites) to respond effectively to the threat posed by Iraq's refusal to end its weapons of mass destruction programs." — Letter to President Clinton, signed by Sens. Carl Levin (D-MI), Tom Daschle (D-SD), John Kerry (D — MA), and others Oct. 9, 1998

    See letter to Clinton by Levin, Daschle, Kerry and others

    "Saddam Hussein has been engaged in the development of weapons of mass destruction technology which is a threat to countries in the region and he has made a mockery of the weapons inspection process." — Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D, CA), Dec. 16, 1998

    Statement by Rep. Nancy Pelosi — House of Representatives website

    "Hussein has chosen to spend his money on building weapons of mass destruction and palaces for his cronies." — Madeline Albright, Clinton Secretary of State, Nov. 10, 1999

    Answer to a question at the Chicago Council of Foreign Affairs

    "There is no doubt that . Saddam Hussein has invigorated his weapons programs. Reports indicate that biological, chemical and nuclear programs continue apace and may be back to pre-Gulf War status. In addition, Saddam continues to redefine delivery systems and is doubtless using the cover of a licit missile program to develop longer-range missiles that will threaten the United States and our allies." — Letter to President Bush, Signed by Sen Bob Graham (D, FL,) and others, December 5, 2001

    Letter to President George W. Bush signed by 9 Congressmen, including Democrats Harold Ford, Jr., Joseph Lieberman, and Benjamin Gilman.

    " We should be hell bent on getting those weapons of mass destruction, hell bent on having a credible approach to them, but we should try to do it in a way which keeps the world together and that achieves our goal which is removing the... defanging Saddam.." — Sen. Carl Levin (D, MI), Dec. 9, 2002

    Online with Jim Lehrer — Public Broadcasting Service

    "We know that he has stored secret supplies of biological and chemical weapons throughout his country." — Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002

    Transcript of Gore's speech, printed in USA Today

    "Iraq's search for weapons of mass destruction has proven impossible to deter and we should assume that it will continue for as long as Saddam is in power." — Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002

    Transcript of Gore's speech, printed in USA Today

    "We have known for many years that Saddam Hussein is seeking and developing weapons of mass destruction." — Sen. Ted Kennedy (D, MA), Sept. 27, 2002

    U.S. Senate — Ted Kennedy

    "The last UN weapons inspectors left Iraq in October of 1998. We are confident that Saddam Hussein retains some stockpiles of chemical and biological weapons, and that he has since embarked on a crash course to build up his chemical and biological warfare capabilities. Intelligence reports indicate that he is seeking nuclear weapons..." — Sen. Robert Byrd (D, WV), Oct. 3, 2002

    Congressional Record — Robert Byrd

    "When I vote to give the President of the United States the authority to use force, if necessary, to disarm Saddam Hussein, it is because I believe that a deadly arsenal of weapons of mass destruction in his hands is a threat, and a grave threat, to our security and that of our allies in the Persian Gulf region. I will vote yes because I believe it is the best way to hold Saddam Hussein accountable." —Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Oct. 9,2002

    Congressional Record — Sen. John F. Kerry

    "There is unmistakable evidence that Saddam Hussein is working aggressively to develop nuclear weapons and will likely have nuclear weapons within the next five years .. We also should remember we have always underestimated the progress Saddam has made in development of weapons of mass destruction." — Sen. Jay Rockefeller (D, WV), Oct 10, 2002

    Congressional Record — Sen. Jay Rockefeller

    "He has systematically violated, over the course of the past 11 years, every significant UN resolution that has demanded that he disarm and destroy his chemical and biological weapons, and any nuclear capacity. This he has refused to do" — Rep. Henry Waxman (D, CA), Oct. 10, 2002

    Congressional Record — Rep. Henry Waxman

    "In 1998, the United States also changed its underlying policy toward Iraq from containment to regime change and began to examine options to effect such a change, including support for Iraqi opposition leaders within the country and abroad. In the 4 years since the inspectors, intelligence reports show that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological weapons stock, his missile delivery capability, and his nuclear program. He has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists, including al-Qaida members, though there is apparently no evidence of his involvement in the terrible events of September 11, 2001.

    "It is clear, however, that if left unchecked, Saddam Hussein wiill continue to increase his capability to wage biological and chemical warfare and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons. Should he succeed in that endeavor, he could alter the political and security landscape of the Middle East which, as we know all too well, affects American security."
    Sen. Hillary Clinton (D, NY), Oct 10, 2002

    Congressional Record — Sen. Hillary Clinton

    "The Joint Chiefs should provide Congress with casualty estimates for a war in Iraq as they have done in advance of every past conflict. These estimates should consider Saddam's possible use of chemical or biological weapons against our troops.

    "Unlike the gulf war, many experts believe Saddam would resort to chemical and biological weapons against our troops in a desperate -attempt to save his regime if he believes he and his regime are ultimately threatened."
    Sen. Ted Kennedy (D-MA) Oct. 8, 2002

    Congressional Record — Sen. Ted Kennedy

    "There is one thing we agree upon, and that is that Saddam Hussein is an evil man. He is a tyrant. He has used chemical and biological weapons on his own people. He has disregarded United Nations resolutions calling for inspections of his capabilities and research and development programs. His forces regularly fire on American and British jet pilots enforcing the no-fly zones in the north and south of his country. And he has the potential to develop and deploy nuclear weapons... — Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL), Dec. 8, 2002

    Congressional Record — Sen. Bob Graham

    But inspectors have had a hard time getting truthful information from the Iraqis they interview. Saddam Hussein terrorizes his people, including his weapons scientists, so effectively that they are afraid to be interviewed in private, let alone outside the country. They know that even the appearance of cooperation could be a death sentence for themselves or their families.

    "To overcome this obstacle, and to discover and dismantle Saddam Hussein's weapons of mass destruction, UNMOVIC and the IAEA must interview relevant persons securely and with their families protected, even if they protest publicly against this treatment. Hans Blix may dislike running ''a defection agency,' but that could be the only way to obtain truthful information about Saddam's weapons of mass destruction — Sen. Joseph Biden

    Congressional Record — Sen. Joseph Biden

    "With respect to Saddam Hussein and the threat he presents, we must ask ourselves a simple question: Why? Why is Saddam Hussein pursuing weapons that most nations have agreed to limit or give up? Why is Saddam Hussein guilty of breaking his own cease-fire agreement with the international community? Why is Saddam Hussein attempting to develop nuclear weapons when most nations don't even try, and responsible nations that have them attempt to limit their potential for disaster? Why did Saddam Hussein threaten and provoke? Why does he develop missiles that exceed allowable limits? Why did Saddam Hussein lie and deceive the inspection teams previously? Why did Saddam Hussein not account for all of the weapons of mass destruction which UNSCOM identified? Why is he seeking to develop unmanned airborne vehicles for delivery of biological agents?
    Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), October 9, 2002

    Congressional Record — Sen. John F. Kerry

    "Saddam Hussein's regime represents a grave threat to America and our allies, including our vital ally, Israel. For more than two decades, Saddam Hussein has sought weapons of mass destruction through every available means. We know that he has chemical and biological weapons. He has already used them against his neighbors and his own people, and is trying to build more. We know that he is doing everything he can to build nuclear weapons, and we know that each day he gets closer to achieving that goal.

    "Iraq has continued to seek nuclear weapons and develop its arsenal in defiance of the collective will of the international community, as expressed through the United Nations Security Council. It is violating the terms of the 1991 cease-fire that ended the Gulf war and as many as 16 Security Council resolutions, including 11 resolutions concerning Iraq's efforts to develop weapons of mass destruction. — Sen. John Edwards, October 10, 2002
    Fine. Investigate the whole mess and if any Democrats lied to get us into Iraq let's find out. By the way, most Democrats in the House voted against the war and close to half in the Senate. Get Trey Gowdy on it. Boy needs something to do besides investigating a relatively minor incident that's already been gone over 4 times.

    By the way, you quote Bob Graham, as if he voted for this stupid war. Did you know, forget, or are covering up that as head of the Senate intelligence Committee he led the fight against it, including an impassioned speech on the Senate floor the night of the vote? Out of context agreement that Saddam was a problem does not equate to promoting invasion.

  20. #20

    Re: Another GW Busch Success Story

    Quote Originally Posted by Pacedog
    http://www.cnn.com/2003/WORLD/meast/03/27/sprj.irq.iraq.chemical.suits/index.html?iref=mpstoryview

    Why do you have chem weapons suits in your possession unless you are contemplating using said weapons against the enemy?
    Dude, Condi told us about mushroom clouds, not trench warfare. Saddam used gas against the Iranians in that decade old war. The administration liars were smarter enough to know what would move opinion polls.

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