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Thread: How long until we have another ground war in Iraq?

  1. #1

    How long until we have another ground war in Iraq?

    Does anybody else not buy the idea that we won't have to send combat troops back into Iraq? How long do you think we will be able to resist the urge to declare another full fledge war, or do you think that Obama will be able to hold his position with this current strategy?

  2. #2

    Re: How long until we have another ground war in Iraq?

    3-6 months. Might take them a few more months to get people and equip over there. The bankers and the corporates want war and their puppets in the govt will give them war. The dupes in the population cheer this on as if it will somehow make them "safer." What the clueless war cheerleaders don't get is this activity makes all of us far less safe in the long run. No sense in explaining to them further because they wouldn't get it.

  3. #3

    Re: How long until we have another ground war in Iraq?

    Quote Originally Posted by TC_Nole_OX
    3-6 months. Might take them a few more months to get people and equip over there. The bankers and the corporates want war and their puppets in the govt will give them war. The dupes in the population cheer this on as if it will somehow make them "safer." What the clueless war cheerleaders don't get is this activity makes all of us far less safe in the long run. No sense in explaining to them further because they wouldn't get it.
    Quality.
    I am going to tear down your safe space
    Brick by brick I shall smash it with glee
    You cannot stop me from getting inside
    I am cold and I am hard and my name is 'Reality'

  4. #4

    Re: How long until we have another ground war in Iraq?

    Quote Originally Posted by TC_Nole_OX
    3-6 months. Might take them a few more months to get people and equip over there. The bankers and the corporates want war and their puppets in the govt will give them war. The dupes in the population cheer this on as if it will somehow make them "safer." What the clueless war cheerleaders don't get is this activity makes all of us far less safe in the long run. No sense in explaining to them further because they wouldn't get it.
    I could see this timeline happening. We were goaded into fighting them easily enough. So once they start killing US troops, escalating things to the ground would seem like the next logical step. Unfortunately for Obama, I see this being another one of those times when one of his well-meaning promises winds up biting him in the ass later on.

  5. #5

    Re: How long until we have another ground war in Iraq?

    [quote=Huey Grey]
    Quote Originally Posted by "TC_Nole_OX":ovsc43rh
    3-6 months. Might take them a few more months to get people and equip over there. The bankers and the corporates want war and their puppets in the govt will give them war. The dupes in the population cheer this on as if it will somehow make them "safer." What the clueless war cheerleaders don't get is this activity makes all of us far less safe in the long run. No sense in explaining to them further because they wouldn't get it.
    I could see this timeline happening. We were goaded into fighting them easily enough. So once they start killing US troops, escalating things to the ground would seem like the next logical step. Unfortunately for Obama, I see this being another one of those times when one of his well-meaning promises winds up biting him in the ass later on.[/quote:ovsc43rh]

    His well meaning promise is just him trying to play to his base. He's bought and paid for and was on the train months ago when his superiors told him to be.
    I am going to tear down your safe space
    Brick by brick I shall smash it with glee
    You cannot stop me from getting inside
    I am cold and I am hard and my name is 'Reality'

  6. #6

    Re: How long until we have another ground war in Iraq?

    [quote=NoleSoup4U]
    Quote Originally Posted by Huey Grey
    Quote Originally Posted by "TC_Nole_OX":2hgi652a
    3-6 months. Might take them a few more months to get people and equip over there. The bankers and the corporates want war and their puppets in the govt will give them war. The dupes in the population cheer this on as if it will somehow make them "safer." What the clueless war cheerleaders don't get is this activity makes all of us far less safe in the long run. No sense in explaining to them further because they wouldn't get it.
    I could see this timeline happening. We were goaded into fighting them easily enough. So once they start killing US troops, escalating things to the ground would seem like the next logical step. Unfortunately for Obama, I see this being another one of those times when one of his well-meaning promises winds up biting him in the ass later on.
    His well meaning promise is just him trying to play to his base. He's bought and paid for and was on the train months ago when his superiors told him to be.[/quote:2hgi652a]
    Who exactly bought him and who are these alleged superiors?

  7. #7

    Re: How long until we have another ground war in Iraq?

    [quote=Huey Grey][quote=NoleSoup4U]
    Quote Originally Posted by "Huey Grey":rnewja1j
    Quote Originally Posted by "TC_Nole_OX":rnewja1j
    3-6 months. Might take them a few more months to get people and equip over there. The bankers and the corporates want war and their puppets in the govt will give them war. The dupes in the population cheer this on as if it will somehow make them "safer." What the clueless war cheerleaders don't get is this activity makes all of us far less safe in the long run. No sense in explaining to them further because they wouldn't get it.
    I could see this timeline happening. We were goaded into fighting them easily enough. So once they start killing US troops, escalating things to the ground would seem like the next logical step. Unfortunately for Obama, I see this being another one of those times when one of his well-meaning promises winds up biting him in the ass later on.
    His well meaning promise is just him trying to play to his base. He's bought and paid for and was on the train months ago when his superiors told him to be.[/quote:rnewja1j]
    Who exactly bought him and who are these alleged superiors?[/quote:rnewja1j]


    http://www.theblaze.com/contribution...sform-america/

  8. #8

    Re: How long until we have another ground war in Iraq?

    [quote=Huey Grey][quote=NoleSoup4U]
    Quote Originally Posted by "Huey Grey":22ogso7q
    Quote Originally Posted by "TC_Nole_OX":22ogso7q
    3-6 months. Might take them a few more months to get people and equip over there. The bankers and the corporates want war and their puppets in the govt will give them war. The dupes in the population cheer this on as if it will somehow make them "safer." What the clueless war cheerleaders don't get is this activity makes all of us far less safe in the long run. No sense in explaining to them further because they wouldn't get it.
    I could see this timeline happening. We were goaded into fighting them easily enough. So once they start killing US troops, escalating things to the ground would seem like the next logical step. Unfortunately for Obama, I see this being another one of those times when one of his well-meaning promises winds up biting him in the ass later on.
    His well meaning promise is just him trying to play to his base. He's bought and paid for and was on the train months ago when his superiors told him to be.[/quote:22ogso7q]
    Who exactly bought him and who are these alleged superiors?[/quote:22ogso7q]

    The same people who run this country and pretty much everything else. The dynasty bankers. We can scratch our own ass without their permission. They could crash the dollar anytime they wanted.
    I am going to tear down your safe space
    Brick by brick I shall smash it with glee
    You cannot stop me from getting inside
    I am cold and I am hard and my name is 'Reality'

  9. #9

    Re: How long until we have another ground war in Iraq?

    [quote=The Tradition][quote="Huey Grey":2kr9ulx4][quote=NoleSoup4U]
    Quote Originally Posted by "Huey Grey":2kr9ulx4
    Quote Originally Posted by "TC_Nole_OX":2kr9ulx4
    3-6 months. Might take them a few more months to get people and equip over there. The bankers and the corporates want war and their puppets in the govt will give them war. The dupes in the population cheer this on as if it will somehow make them "safer." What the clueless war cheerleaders don't get is this activity makes all of us far less safe in the long run. No sense in explaining to them further because they wouldn't get it.
    I could see this timeline happening. We were goaded into fighting them easily enough. So once they start killing US troops, escalating things to the ground would seem like the next logical step. Unfortunately for Obama, I see this being another one of those times when one of his well-meaning promises winds up biting him in the ass later on.
    His well meaning promise is just him trying to play to his base. He's bought and paid for and was on the train months ago when his superiors told him to be.[/quote:2kr9ulx4]
    Who exactly bought him and who are these alleged superiors?[/quote:2kr9ulx4]


    http://www.theblaze.com/contribution...sform-america/[/quote:2kr9ulx4]
    You're not serious with this article are you? It reads like a tinfoil hat conspiracy theory.

  10. #10

    Re: How long until we have another ground war in Iraq?

    [quote=NoleSoup4U][quote=Huey Grey]
    Quote Originally Posted by NoleSoup4U
    Quote Originally Posted by "Huey Grey":59riw5wh
    Quote Originally Posted by "TC_Nole_OX":59riw5wh
    3-6 months. Might take them a few more months to get people and equip over there. The bankers and the corporates want war and their puppets in the govt will give them war. The dupes in the population cheer this on as if it will somehow make them "safer." What the clueless war cheerleaders don't get is this activity makes all of us far less safe in the long run. No sense in explaining to them further because they wouldn't get it.
    I could see this timeline happening. We were goaded into fighting them easily enough. So once they start killing US troops, escalating things to the ground would seem like the next logical step. Unfortunately for Obama, I see this being another one of those times when one of his well-meaning promises winds up biting him in the ass later on.
    His well meaning promise is just him trying to play to his base. He's bought and paid for and was on the train months ago when his superiors told him to be.
    Who exactly bought him and who are these alleged superiors?[/quote:59riw5wh]

    The same people who run this country and pretty much everything else. The dynasty bankers. We can scratch our own ass without their permission. They could crash the dollar anytime they wanted.[/quote:59riw5wh]

    Couldn't one make the argument that all politicians are owned by these bankers then?

  11. #11

    Re: How long until we have another ground war in Iraq?

    [quote=Huey Grey][quote="The Tradition":3mbz0y1w][quote="Huey Grey":3mbz0y1w][quote=NoleSoup4U]
    Quote Originally Posted by "Huey Grey":3mbz0y1w
    Quote Originally Posted by "TC_Nole_OX":3mbz0y1w
    3-6 months. Might take them a few more months to get people and equip over there. The bankers and the corporates want war and their puppets in the govt will give them war. The dupes in the population cheer this on as if it will somehow make them "safer." What the clueless war cheerleaders don't get is this activity makes all of us far less safe in the long run. No sense in explaining to them further because they wouldn't get it.
    I could see this timeline happening. We were goaded into fighting them easily enough. So once they start killing US troops, escalating things to the ground would seem like the next logical step. Unfortunately for Obama, I see this being another one of those times when one of his well-meaning promises winds up biting him in the ass later on.
    His well meaning promise is just him trying to play to his base. He's bought and paid for and was on the train months ago when his superiors told him to be.[/quote:3mbz0y1w]
    Who exactly bought him and who are these alleged superiors?[/quote:3mbz0y1w]


    http://www.theblaze.com/contribution...sform-america/[/quote:3mbz0y1w]
    You're not serious with this article are you? It reads like a tinfoil hat conspiracy theory.[/quote:3mbz0y1w]


    Yeah, when the Koch brothers spend millions to influence politicians, it's a CONSTITUTIONAL CRISIS, but when George Soros does it, it's cool.... no undue influence. No, siree Bob.

  12. #12

    Re: How long until we have another ground war in Iraq?

    I guess I'm trying to figure out what the bankers would have to gain by having Obama not declare war on ISIS? Why would they instruct him to not act on this for a while, then suddenly tell Obama to give token resistence to ISIS's spread throughout Iraq with the promise that it would never go to the ground?

  13. #13

    Re: How long until we have another ground war in Iraq?

    [quote=The Tradition][quote="Huey Grey":2o8uoey5][quote="The Tradition":2o8uoey5][quote="Huey Grey":2o8uoey5][quote=NoleSoup4U]
    Quote Originally Posted by "Huey Grey":2o8uoey5
    Quote Originally Posted by "TC_Nole_OX":2o8uoey5
    3-6 months. Might take them a few more months to get people and equip over there. The bankers and the corporates want war and their puppets in the govt will give them war. The dupes in the population cheer this on as if it will somehow make them "safer." What the clueless war cheerleaders don't get is this activity makes all of us far less safe in the long run. No sense in explaining to them further because they wouldn't get it.
    I could see this timeline happening. We were goaded into fighting them easily enough. So once they start killing US troops, escalating things to the ground would seem like the next logical step. Unfortunately for Obama, I see this being another one of those times when one of his well-meaning promises winds up biting him in the ass later on.
    His well meaning promise is just him trying to play to his base. He's bought and paid for and was on the train months ago when his superiors told him to be.[/quote:2o8uoey5]
    Who exactly bought him and who are these alleged superiors?[/quote:2o8uoey5]


    http://www.theblaze.com/contribution...sform-america/[/quote:2o8uoey5]
    You're not serious with this article are you? It reads like a tinfoil hat conspiracy theory.[/quote:2o8uoey5]


    Yeah, when the Koch brothers spend millions to influence politicians, it's a CONSTITUTIONAL CRISIS, but when George Soros does it, it's cool.... no undue influence. No, siree Bob.[/quote:2o8uoey5]
    Soros contributed $1.275 million to a pro Obama superpac. And he's not even in the top ten for contributions. Meanwhile, the Adelson's donating $36.25 million to Republicans. If any party seems bought and paid for, it's the GOP.

  14. #14

    Re: How long until we have another ground war in Iraq?

    yeah, that's the total extent of George Soros' political influence, lol.

  15. #15

    Re: How long until we have another ground war in Iraq?

    Quote Originally Posted by The Tradition
    yeah, that's the total extent of George Soros' political influence, lol.
    According to Forbes, which is a conservative outfit, it was his contribution to the 2012 election.

  16. #16

    Re: How long until we have another ground war in Iraq?

    [quote=Huey Grey][quote=NoleSoup4U][quote="Huey Grey":fuu3p91q]
    Quote Originally Posted by NoleSoup4U
    Quote Originally Posted by "Huey Grey":fuu3p91q
    Quote Originally Posted by "TC_Nole_OX":fuu3p91q
    3-6 months. Might take them a few more months to get people and equip over there. The bankers and the corporates want war and their puppets in the govt will give them war. The dupes in the population cheer this on as if it will somehow make them "safer." What the clueless war cheerleaders don't get is this activity makes all of us far less safe in the long run. No sense in explaining to them further because they wouldn't get it.
    I could see this timeline happening. We were goaded into fighting them easily enough. So once they start killing US troops, escalating things to the ground would seem like the next logical step. Unfortunately for Obama, I see this being another one of those times when one of his well-meaning promises winds up biting him in the ass later on.
    His well meaning promise is just him trying to play to his base. He's bought and paid for and was on the train months ago when his superiors told him to be.
    Who exactly bought him and who are these alleged superiors?[/quote:fuu3p91q]

    The same people who run this country and pretty much everything else. The dynasty bankers. We can scratch our own ass without their permission. They could crash the dollar anytime they wanted.[/quote:fuu3p91q]

    Couldn't one make the argument that all politicians are owned by these bankers then?[/quote:fuu3p91q]

    Bankers and corporations. Whoever wants to help them get elected and pay them kickbacks. Why do you think the corporations are so out of control in this country?
    I am going to tear down your safe space
    Brick by brick I shall smash it with glee
    You cannot stop me from getting inside
    I am cold and I am hard and my name is 'Reality'

  17. #17

    Re: How long until we have another ground war in Iraq?

    Quote Originally Posted by Huey Grey
    I guess I'm trying to figure out what the bankers would have to gain by having Obama not declare war on ISIS? Why would they instruct him to not act on this for a while, then suddenly tell Obama to give token resistence to ISIS's spread throughout Iraq with the promise that it would never go to the ground?
    I'm sure everything is calculated. It's not like they still aren't making money off all the existing wars.
    I am going to tear down your safe space
    Brick by brick I shall smash it with glee
    You cannot stop me from getting inside
    I am cold and I am hard and my name is 'Reality'

  18. #18

    Re: How long until we have another ground war in Iraq?

    Quote Originally Posted by NoleSoup4U
    Quote Originally Posted by Huey Grey
    I guess I'm trying to figure out what the bankers would have to gain by having Obama not declare war on ISIS? Why would they instruct him to not act on this for a while, then suddenly tell Obama to give token resistence to ISIS's spread throughout Iraq with the promise that it would never go to the ground?
    I'm sure everything is calculated. It's not like they still aren't making money off all the existing wars.
    But if they want war, why have they been instructing Obama to try avoiding war and promise that we wouldn't be doing combat missions?

  19. #19

    Re: How long until we have another ground war in Iraq?

    [quote=Huey Grey]
    Quote Originally Posted by "The Tradition":29rxfz19
    yeah, that's the total extent of George Soros' political influence, lol.
    According to Forbes, which is a conservative outfit, it was his contribution to the 2012 election.[/quote:29rxfz19]

    In an interview with The Washington Post on November 11, 2003, Soros said that removing President George W. Bush from office was the "central focus of my life" and "a matter of life and death". He said he would sacrifice his entire fortune to defeat Bush "if someone guaranteed it".[59][60] Soros gave $3 million to the Center for American Progress, $2.5 million to MoveOn.org, and $20 million[61] to America Coming Together. These groups worked to support Democrats in the 2004 election. On September 28, 2004, he dedicated more money to the campaign and kicked off his own multi-state tour with a speech: Why We Must Not Re-elect President Bush[62] delivered at the National Press Club in Washington, DC. The online transcript to this speech received many hits after Dick Cheney accidentally referred to FactCheck.org as "factcheck.com" in the Vice Presidential debate, causing the owner of that domain to redirect all traffic to Soros' site.[63]

    When Soros was asked in 2006 about his statement in The Age of Fallibility that "the main obstacle to a stable and just world order is the United States", he responded that "it happens to coincide with the prevailing opinion in the world. And I think that's rather shocking for Americans to hear. The United States sets the agenda for the world. And the rest of the world has to respond to that agenda. By declaring a 'war on terror' after September 11, we set the wrong agenda for the world. ... when you wage war, you inevitably create innocent victims."[64]

    Soros was not a large donor to US political causes until the 2004 presidential election, but according to the Center for Responsive Politics, during the 2003–2004 election cycle, Soros donated $23,581,000 to various 527 groups dedicated to defeating President Bush. A 527 group is a type of American tax-exempt organization named after a section of the United States tax code, 26 U.S.C. § 527.

    After Bush's re-election, Soros and other donors backed a new political fundraising group called Democracy Alliance, which supports progressive causes and the formation of a stronger progressive infrastructure in America.[65]

    In August 2009, Soros donated $35 million to the state of New York to be ear-marked for under-privileged children and given to parents who had benefit cards at the rate of $200 per child aged 3 through 17, with no limit as to the number of children that qualified. An additional $140 million was put into the fund by the state of New York from money they had received from the 2009 federal recovery act.[21]

    On October 26, 2010, Soros donated $1 million, the largest donation in the campaign, to the Drug Policy Alliance to fund Proposition 19, that would have legalized marijuana in the state of California if it had passed in the November 2, 2010 elections.[66]

    In October 2011 a Reuters story titled "Soros: not a funder of Wall Street protests" was published after several commentators pointed out errors in an earlier Reuters story headlined "Who's behind the Wall St. protests?" with a lede stating that the Occupy Wall Street movement "may have benefited indirectly from the largesse of one of the world's richest men [Soros]". Reuters' follow-up article also reported a Soros spokesperson and Adbusters' co-founder Kalle Lasn both saying that Adbusters – which was the catalyst for the first Occupy Wall Street protests – had never received any contributions from Soros, contrary to Reuters' earlier story which reported that "indirect financial links" existed between the two as late as 2010.[67][68]

    On September 27, 2012, Soros announced that he was donating $1 million to the super PAC backing President Barack Obama's reelection[Priorities USA Action]].[69]

    In October 2013, Soros donated $25,000 to Ready for Hillary, becoming a co-chair of the super PAC's national finance committee.[70]

    Central and Eastern Europe[edit]
    According to Waldemar A. Nielsen, an authority on American philanthropy,[71] "[Soros] has undertaken ... nothing less than to open up the once-closed Communist societies of Eastern Europe to a free flow of ideas and scientific knowledge from the outside world".[72] From 1979, as an advocate of 'open societies', Soros financially supported dissidents including Poland's Solidarity movement, Charter 77 in Czechoslovakia and Andrei Sakharov in the Soviet Union.[52] In 1984, he founded his first Open Society Institute in Hungary with a budget of $3 million.[73]

    Since the fall of the Soviet Union, Soros' funding has continued to play an important role in the former Soviet sphere. His funding of pro-democratic programs in Georgia was considered by Russian and Western observers to be crucial to the success of the Rose Revolution, although Soros has said that his role has been "greatly exaggerated".[74] Alexander Lomaia, Secretary of the Georgian Security Council and former Minister of Education and Science, is a former Executive Director of the Open Society Georgia Foundation (Soros Foundation), overseeing a staff of 50 and a budget of $2,500,000.[75]

    Former Georgian Foreign Minister Salomé Zourabichvili wrote that institutions like the Soros Foundation were the cradle of democratisation and that all the NGOs which gravitated around the Soros Foundation undeniably carried the revolution. She opines that after the revolution the Soros Foundation and the NGOs were integrated into power.[76]

    Some Soros-backed pro-democracy initiatives have been banned in Kazakhstan and Turkmenistan.[77] Ercis Kurtulus, head of the Social Transparency Movement Association (TSHD) in Turkey, said in an interview that "Soros carried out his will in Ukraine and Georgia by using these NGOs ... Last year Russia passed a special law prohibiting NGOs from taking money from foreigners. I think this should be banned in Turkey as well."[78] In 1997, Soros had to close his foundation in Belarus after it was fined $3 million by the government for "tax and currency violations". According to The New York Times, the Belarusian president Alexander Lukashenko has been widely criticized in the West and in Russia for his efforts to control the Belarus Soros Foundation and other independent NGOs and to suppress civil and human rights. Soros called the fines part of a campaign to "destroy independent society".[79]

    In June 2009, Soros donated $100m to Central Europe and Eastern Europe to counter the impact of the economic crisis on the poor, voluntary groups and non-government organisations.[80]

    Africa[edit]
    The Open Society Initiative for Southern Africa is a Soros-affiliated organization.[81] Its director for Zimbabwe is Godfrey Kanyenze, who also directs the Zimbabwe Congress of Trade Unions (ZCTU), which was the main force behind the founding of the Movement for Democratic Change, the principal indigenous organization promoting regime change in Zimbabwe.

    Drug policy reform[edit]
    Soros has funded worldwide efforts to promote drug policy reform. In 2008, Soros donated $400,000 to help fund a successful ballot measure in Massachusetts known as the Massachusetts Sensible Marijuana Policy Initiative which decriminalized possession of less than 1 oz (28g) of marijuana in the state. Soros has also funded similar measures in California, Alaska, Oregon, Washington, Colorado, Nevada and Maine.[82] Among the drug decriminalization groups that have received funding from Soros are the Lindesmith Center and Drug Policy Foundation.[83] Soros donated $1.4 million to publicity efforts to support California's Proposition 5 in 2008, a failed ballot measure that would have expanded drug rehabilitation programs as alternatives to prison for persons convicted of non-violent drug-related offenses.[84]

    In October 2010, Soros donated $1 million to support California's Proposition 19.[85]

    According to remarks in an interview in October 2009, it is Soros' opinion that marijuana is less addictive but not appropriate for use by children and students. He himself has not used marijuana for years.[86] Soros has been a major financier of the Drug Policy Alliance – an organization that promotes cannabis legalization – with roughly $4 million in annual contributions from one of his foundations.[87]

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_...s_and_activism

  20. #20

    Re: How long until we have another ground war in Iraq?

    [quote=Huey Grey]
    Quote Originally Posted by NoleSoup4U
    Quote Originally Posted by "Huey Grey":1kiwztj1
    I guess I'm trying to figure out what the bankers would have to gain by having Obama not declare war on ISIS? Why would they instruct him to not act on this for a while, then suddenly tell Obama to give token resistence to ISIS's spread throughout Iraq with the promise that it would never go to the ground?
    I'm sure everything is calculated. It's not like they still aren't making money off all the existing wars.
    But if they want war, why have they been instructing Obama to try avoiding war and promise that we wouldn't be doing combat missions?[/quote:1kiwztj1]

    They probably haven't. It's probably been the plan all along. That doesn't mean that you can't put on a little show for your constituents. Most people aren't that stupid. You need to throw some obfuscation in there somewhere.
    I am going to tear down your safe space
    Brick by brick I shall smash it with glee
    You cannot stop me from getting inside
    I am cold and I am hard and my name is 'Reality'

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