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Thread: Security Operators Told to ‘Stand Down’ in Benghazi

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    Security Operators Told to ‘Stand Down’ in Benghazi

    Security Operators on the Ground in Benghazi Say They Were Told to ‘Stand Down’ — and That’s Not All

    Five security operators responsible for guarding the CIA station in Benghazi, Libya insist they were told to “stand down” the night of the deadly 2012 attacks, arguing the order prevented them from likely saving the life of Ambassador Christopher Stevens and others.

    The claim is made in a new book titled “13 Hours: The Inside Account of What Really Happened in Benghazi.” Scheduled for release next week, it is the first public account of the deadly attacks from security personnel who were on the ground that night.


    An armed man waves his rifle as buildings and cars are engulfed in flames after being set on fire inside the US consulate compound in Benghazi late on September 11, 2012. (Photo Credit: AFP/Getty Images)

    “If you guys do not get here, we are going to die!” a diplomatic security agent shouted over the radio, the commandos say in their new book, according to the New York Times.

    Within moments the team, comprised of former members of American Special Forces teams and hired as private contractors, was ready to deploy and move to the compound, a mere mile away.

    “Five minutes, we’re ready,” Kris “Tanto” Paronto, a former Army Ranger, told Fox News. “It was thumbs up, thumbs up, we’re ready to go.”

    However, according to the team, a top CIA officer in Benghazi, who they refer to as “Bob,” told them to “stand down.”

    “‘Stand down, you need to wait.’”

    “It had probably been 15 minutes I think, and … I just said, ‘Hey, you know, we gotta– we need to get over there, we’re losing the initiative,’” John Tiegen told Fox News. “And Bob just looks straight at me and said, ‘Stand down, you need to wait.’”

    “We’re starting to get calls from the State Department guys saying, ‘Hey, we’re taking fire, we need you guys here, we need help,’” Paronto added.

    Finally, after 30 minutes of waiting, the team said they deployed, in defiance of the order, the Times reported.

    Revisiting the events of the fateful night, the five commandos say they believe Ambassador Stevens and others would have been alive if not for the “stand down” order.

    “Ambassador Stevens and Sean [Smith], yeah, they would still be alive, my gut is yes,” Paronto said.

    “I strongly believe if we’d left immediately, they’d still be alive today,” Tiegen added.

    “I strongly believe if we’d left immediately, they’d still be alive today.”

    VIDEO LINKED ---> http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2014...thats-not-all/

    A senior intelligence official told Fox News that “there were no orders to anybody to stand down in providing support.”

    The commandos adamantly denied that claim, insisting to Fox News the order was given.

    “You use the words ‘stand down,’” host Bret Baier said. “A number of people now, including the House Intelligence Committee insist no one was hindered from responding to the situation at the compound…so what do you say to that?”

    “No, it happened,” Tiegen answered.

    “It happened on the ground– all I can talk about is what happened on that ground that night,” Paronto added to Fox News. “To us. To myself, twice, and to– to Tig, once. It happened that night. We were told to wait, stand– and stand down. We were delayed three times.”

    Fox News plans to air a special Friday night, showing the complete interview they conducted with the commandos.

    Earlier this year, testimony from nine military officers appeared to undermine the claim that a “stand down” order was given.

    http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2014...thats-not-all/

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    That dude's pants are awesome!

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    GOP should launch another investigation over this revelation. Surely this time they will be able to finally get blackie.

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    Re: Security Operators Told to ‘Stand Down’ in Benghazi

    The prior investagation has never ended,...Trey Gowdy is gonna ream someone good

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    Quote Originally Posted by Guckster
    The prior investagation has never ended,...Trey Gowdy is gonna ream someone good


    And that's all you care about. People keep screaming "Benghazi!!" because it's a really nice black eye added to the list for the administration, not because they really care about the people who died there.

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    Re: Security Operators Told to ‘Stand Down’ in Benghazi

    Nope,... I Like Trey Gowdy. And he is a no nonsense guy. I just want justice... Would feel that same if it were GW in the WH

    But carry on your pissy little rant

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    So show me evidence that these mercs were on the call list in the case of an attack. There should be an existing protocol that would identify their group as an option otherwise how would the individual know who to contact. Let's see that.

    We have to assume that the call came from one of those killed in the attack since no one who survived has mentioned this. Who was it? I find it hard to believe that they would respond to a call from some unidentified individual...regardless of how panicked that person sounded. That's the recipe for an ambush.

    Lots of questions.
    "The transition from democracy to tyranny is most easily brought about by a popular leader who knows how to exploit the class antagonism between the rich and the poor within the democratic state, and who succeeds in building up a bodyguard of a private army of his own. The people who have hailed him first as the champion of freedom are soon enslaved."

    -From Things Plato Never Said

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    Quote Originally Posted by Guckster
    Nope,... I Like Trey Gowdy. And he is a no nonsense guy. I just want justice... Would feel that same if it were GW in the WH
    So you feel that the statute of limitations applies to bush since you aren't calling for an investigation of the Iraq War and the misinformation peddled to sell that conflict...right?
    "The transition from democracy to tyranny is most easily brought about by a popular leader who knows how to exploit the class antagonism between the rich and the poor within the democratic state, and who succeeds in building up a bodyguard of a private army of his own. The people who have hailed him first as the champion of freedom are soon enslaved."

    -From Things Plato Never Said

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    Re: Security Operators Told to ‘Stand Down’ in Benghazi

    Quote Originally Posted by tarheelbybirth
    Quote Originally Posted by Guckster
    Nope,... I Like Trey Gowdy. And he is a no nonsense guy. I just want justice... Would feel that same if it were GW in the WH
    So you feel that the statute of limitations applies to bush since you aren't calling for an investigation of the Iraq War and the misinformation peddled to sell that conflict...right?

    Dude, carry on your butt hurt little rants somewhere else.... you need to get a life.

    Do I really need to quote all of the Dems who cried that Sadam Had WMDs AGAIN? Really?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheOne
    Quote Originally Posted by Guckster
    The prior investagation has never ended,...Trey Gowdy is gonna ream someone good


    And that's all you care about. People keep screaming "Benghazi!!" because it's a really nice black eye added to the list for the administration, not because they really care about the people who died there.

    The COWH brought this on himself with how it was handled. Nuf said. Now it's time to pay the piper.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Guckster
    Quote Originally Posted by tarheelbybirth
    Quote Originally Posted by Guckster
    Nope,... I Like Trey Gowdy. And he is a no nonsense guy. I just want justice... Would feel that same if it were GW in the WH
    So you feel that the statute of limitations applies to bush since you aren't calling for an investigation of the Iraq War and the misinformation peddled to sell that conflict...right?

    Dude, carry on your butt hurt little rants somewhere else.... you need to get a life.

    Do I really need to quote all of the Dems who cried that Sadam Had WMDs AGAIN? Really?
    "Dude", you need to get some new material. You give them a pass but demand an investigation now...what a hypocrite.

    What I would like to see you do is quote all the Dems who were beating the drums for an invasion - sending ground troops into Iraq. Let's see THAT list. And before you bring up Kerry, you might want to read what he said when he voted for the Authorization to Use Force and what he said when bush announced the invasion...don't make me embarrass you. I'll give you 24 hours to put that list together. Good luck.

    Absent that - the only point you have is the one on your pointy little bean (see? I can use juvenile taunts, too :D )
    "The transition from democracy to tyranny is most easily brought about by a popular leader who knows how to exploit the class antagonism between the rich and the poor within the democratic state, and who succeeds in building up a bodyguard of a private army of his own. The people who have hailed him first as the champion of freedom are soon enslaved."

    -From Things Plato Never Said

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    Re: Security Operators Told to ‘Stand Down’ in Benghazi

    I didn't think anyone could be Dumber than Brooklyn,...Congrats. You past him

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    Quote Originally Posted by Guckster
    I didn't think anyone could be Dumber than Brooklyn,...Congrats. You past him

    Holy ****.

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    Re: Security Operators Told to ‘Stand Down’ in Benghazi

    Quote Originally Posted by TheOne
    Quote Originally Posted by Guckster
    I didn't think anyone could be Dumber than Brooklyn,...Congrats. You past him

    Holy s^$t.
    Ok,...would you rather I have said,... You have topped him? Auto correct sucks... Geez dude. You are right there with both of them too

    Here so you know I know what you meant... Passed ... there Now STFU

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    Quote Originally Posted by Guckster
    Quote Originally Posted by TheOne
    Quote Originally Posted by Guckster
    I didn't think anyone could be Dumber than Brooklyn,...Congrats. You past him

    Holy s^$t.
    Ok,...would you rather I have said,... You have topped him? Auto correct sucks... Geez dude. You are right there with both of them too

    Here so you know I know what you meant... Passed ... there Now STFU
    So you admit that you can't do it? That's all you had to say.
    "The transition from democracy to tyranny is most easily brought about by a popular leader who knows how to exploit the class antagonism between the rich and the poor within the democratic state, and who succeeds in building up a bodyguard of a private army of his own. The people who have hailed him first as the champion of freedom are soon enslaved."

    -From Things Plato Never Said

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    Re: Security Operators Told to ‘Stand Down’ in Benghazi

    Quote Originally Posted by tarheelbybirth
    Quote Originally Posted by Guckster
    Quote Originally Posted by TheOne
    Quote Originally Posted by Guckster
    I didn't think anyone could be Dumber than Brooklyn,...Congrats. You past him

    Holy s^$t.
    Ok,...would you rather I have said,... You have topped him? Auto correct sucks... Geez dude. You are right there with both of them too

    Here so you know I know what you meant... Passed ... there Now STFU
    So you admit that you can't do it? That's all you had to say.
    Yep,..I definitely cannot be dumber then Brooklyn! You got me on that one! You WIN! For once

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    Quote Originally Posted by Guckster
    Quote Originally Posted by tarheelbybirth
    Quote Originally Posted by Guckster
    Quote Originally Posted by TheOne
    Quote Originally Posted by Guckster
    I didn't think anyone could be Dumber than Brooklyn,...Congrats. You past him

    Holy s^$t.
    Ok,...would you rather I have said,... You have topped him? Auto correct sucks... Geez dude. You are right there with both of them too

    Here so you know I know what you meant... Passed ... there Now STFU
    So you admit that you can't do it? That's all you had to say.
    Yep,..I definitely cannot be dumber then Brooklyn! You got me on that one! You WIN! For once
    I realize you have the attention span of a gnat but try to stay on track.
    "The transition from democracy to tyranny is most easily brought about by a popular leader who knows how to exploit the class antagonism between the rich and the poor within the democratic state, and who succeeds in building up a bodyguard of a private army of his own. The people who have hailed him first as the champion of freedom are soon enslaved."

    -From Things Plato Never Said

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    Re: Security Operators Told to ‘Stand Down’ in Benghazi

    [quote=tarheelbybirth]
    Quote Originally Posted by Guckster
    Quote Originally Posted by tarheelbybirth
    Quote Originally Posted by Guckster
    Quote Originally Posted by TheOne
    Quote Originally Posted by "Guckster":gcrj1u2m
    I didn't think anyone could be Dumber than Brooklyn,...Congrats. You past him

    Holy s^$t.
    Ok,...would you rather I have said,... You have topped him? Auto correct sucks... Geez dude. You are right there with both of them too

    Here so you know I know what you meant... Passed ... there Now STFU
    So you admit that you can't do it? That's all you had to say.
    Yep,..I definitely cannot be dumber then Brooklyn! You got me on that one! You WIN! For once
    I realize you have the attention span of a gnat but try to stay on track.[/quote:gcrj1u2m]
    Ohhhhh Wow,... that hurt.... :roll:

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    One more chance - What I would like to see you do is quote all the Dems who were beating the drums for an invasion - sending ground troops into Iraq. Let's see THAT list. And before you bring up Kerry, you might want to read what he said when he voted for the Authorization to Use Force and what he said when bush announced the invasion...don't make me embarrass you. I'll give you 24 hours to put that list together. Why not accept the challenge?
    "The transition from democracy to tyranny is most easily brought about by a popular leader who knows how to exploit the class antagonism between the rich and the poor within the democratic state, and who succeeds in building up a bodyguard of a private army of his own. The people who have hailed him first as the champion of freedom are soon enslaved."

    -From Things Plato Never Said

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    Re: Security Operators Told to ‘Stand Down’ in Benghazi

    Quote Originally Posted by tarheelbybirth
    One more chance - What I would like to see you do is quote all the Dems who were beating the drums for an invasion - sending ground troops into Iraq. Let's see THAT list. And before you bring up Kerry, you might want to read what he said when he voted for the Authorization to Use Force and what he said when bush announced the invasion...don't make me embarrass you. I'll give you 24 hours to put that list together. Why not accept the challenge?
    Nope,..you seem to have a hard on for me for some reason.... Last thing I am gonna do is play your games. I said Dems who stated Sadam has WMDs.... You like to change the game,..and I do not paly that BS... Can't win an Argument? Change the argument... I do not play that crap... You are wrong,... now get over it.

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