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Thread: another Republican governor to expand Medicaid

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    another Republican governor to expand Medicaid

    Following Pennsylvania:

    "In the latest development on Medicaid expansion, Tennessee's Republican Gov. Bill Haslam announced on Thursday that he would submit plans to the federal government to expand the health care program for low-income residents and the disabled, according to the Tennessean.

    Haslam had previously expressed a desire to take the federal government's offer to pay as much as 100 percent of the expansion's costs over time, but to add some conservative features. That was in March 2013, according to the Tennessean.

    Since then, the Democrats have made Medicaid expansion a major issue in this year's gubernatorial elections. Haslam's move could cover as many as 162,000 Tennesseans who are not eligible for Medicaid care under the Affordable Care Act...."

    http://www.al.com/news/index.ssf/2014/0 ... o_exp.html

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    Re: another Republican governor to expand Medicaid

    Too popular in other red states. The writing is on the wall and many Republucans know it.

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    Re: another Republican governor to expand Medicaid

    The Feds are extorting states to get it passed in more places.

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    Re: another Republican governor to expand Medicaid

    What is the nature of the alleged extortion?

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    Re: another Republican governor to expand Medicaid

    Surely nothing can go wrong with that. Just a matter of time before the cries for more funding b/c the system is on the verge of bankruptcy.

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    Re: another Republican governor to expand Medicaid

    Quote Originally Posted by Brooklyn Nole
    What is the nature of the alleged extortion?
    Give in a play the game or have your funding cut.

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    Re: another Republican governor to expand Medicaid

    Quote Originally Posted by Pacedog
    Quote Originally Posted by Brooklyn Nole
    What is the nature of the alleged extortion?
    Give in a play the game or have your funding cut.
    Show me. Because SCOTUS in the OBAMACARE decision said that the government could not condition funds based on whether a state accepted the medicaid expansion or not.

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    Re: another Republican governor to expand Medicaid

    [quote=Brooklyn Nole][quote=Pacedog][quote="Brooklyn Nole":ijz215wn]What is the nature of the alleged extortion?[/quote]

    Give in a play the game or have your funding cut.[/quote]

    Show me. Because SCOTUS in the OBAMACARE decision said that the government could not condition funds based on whether a state accepted the medicaid expansion or not.[/quote:ijz215wn]


    Medicaid funding has been cut for states that do not "play along." PLaying along means setting up an exchange as required by the ACA.


    [url="http://www.vox.com/2014/7/22/5821600/obamacare-halbig-subsidies-illegal-most-states"]http://www.vox.com/2014/7/22/5821600/ob ... ost-states[/url]


    Why would the law prohibit states from getting subsidies unless they set up their own exchange?

    To be clear, the administration is arguing that the law doesn't do this at all.

    But the plaintiffs claim that the subsidies in addition to making insurance more affordable for millions of Americans were supposed to act as a carrot, encouraging states to set up their own exchanges. If a state set up its own exchange, its citizens would receive subsidies. If the state didn't, its citizens wouldn't.

    So, Florida hasn't set up the extortionist exchange and citizens in this state cannot get their subsidies unless they BOW to Ceasar and pay tribute (set up exchange). It's the Dem way of playing folks off against states who are GOP controlled.

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    Re: another Republican governor to expand Medicaid

    [quote=Pacedog][quote=Brooklyn Nole][quote=Pacedog][quote="Brooklyn Nole":kl3u3l3k]What is the nature of the alleged extortion?[/quote]

    Give in a play the game or have your funding cut.[/quote]

    Show me. Because SCOTUS in the OBAMACARE decision said that the government could not condition funds based on whether a state accepted the medicaid expansion or not.[/quote]


    Medicaid funding has been cut for states that do not "play along." PLaying along means setting up an exchange as required by the ACA.


    [url="http://www.vox.com/2014/7/22/5821600/obamacare-halbig-subsidies-illegal-most-states"]http://www.vox.com/2014/7/22/5821600/ob ... ost-states[/url]


    Why would the law prohibit states from getting subsidies unless they set up their own exchange?

    To be clear, the administration is arguing that the law doesn't do this at all.

    But the plaintiffs claim that the subsidies in addition to making insurance more affordable for millions of Americans were supposed to act as a carrot, encouraging states to set up their own exchanges. If a state set up its own exchange, its citizens would receive subsidies. If the state didn't, its citizens wouldn't.

    So, Florida hasn't set up the extortionist exchange and citizens in this state cannot get their subsidies unless they BOW to Ceasar and pay tribute (set up exchange). It's the Dem way of playing folks off against states who are GOP controlled.[/quote:kl3u3l3k]


    You are partially correct and partially incorrect.

    You are correct that the wording of the statute provides that the subsidies are only obtainable through state exchanges - and SCOTUS may rule in the Plaintiff's favor - which everyone knows would collapse the ability of the law to function.

    You are incorrect in describing that as extortion. Equating setting up an exchange as "paying tribute" is nonsensical and bogus.

    You states rights folks wanted the ability to "opt out" and now that SCOTUS confirmed states have that right you're *****ing about being extorted when you are not paying a penny more in taxes because Florida opted out.

    Explain that tangle mess of thinking.

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